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Old 18th July 2014, 08:50   #136
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2. Turn signal is on (not comfort lane change function)
Was hoping it was not true.

That's a bit lame isn't it? So, one will need to indicate all the turns. Wonder why they cannot make use of the steering wheel lock alone.
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Was hoping it was not true.

That's a bit lame isn't it? So, one will need to indicate all the turns. Wonder why they cannot make use of the steering wheel lock alone.
I don't think it's lame. That's because you are expected to indicate your turns so as to inform vehicles behind you of your intention to turn. The cornering light then aids you with better visibility. I have often rued drivers suddenly coming on to your lane with no indication.

If you add a new feature then it should build on the right rules from existing features. That's what VW has done.

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I don't think it's lame. That's because you are expected to indicate your turns so as to inform vehicles behind you of your intention to turn. The cornering light then aids you with better visibility.
For Intersections, yeah it works.

But imagine a road with sharp turns and no intersections, like the one below. If one were to indicate all turns, it will be confusing for the guys following and an added hassle for the driver I feel. How will you differentiate between making a turn and pulling over?

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But if the cornering lights come on automatically based on the steering angle when the headlights are on, that will be better, isn't it?

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That's a bit lame isn't it? So, one will need to indicate all the turns. Wonder why they cannot make use of the steering wheel lock alone.
I concur with that. Flicking the indicator stalks for the cornering lights to work wasn't necessary IMO.

The XUV 5OO also features cornering lights (but built into the main headlamp cluster itself) and it nicely lights up a corner when you turn the steering wheel beyond a certain degree. And it works very well!

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The cornering light bulb is inclined at a certain angle inside the cluster and lights up when you turn the steering.

Anyhow, I shall confirm this aspect today. Received a call from the VW showroom yesterday for the launch and test drive. I am not sure about the test drive since monsoons have started and it will be late by the time we reach the showroom.
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@deetjohn Surely this situation does not merit turning the indicator lights on while cornering lights maybe useful.

My need for cornering lights are in the city when it's dark and

1. I take a U turn on bad roads,
2. I join a service road from the main roads,
3. I change lanes and take a U turn as I get down from a bridge,
4. I join a road that is perpendicular to the road I am in and
5. I take bad "connector" roads to reach main roads.

Especially when the roads have been dug up and badly refilled with mud.

In these situations you would rather have the turn lights on and to make the driver have them on to enable cornering lights is better than otherwise.

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In these situations you would rather have the turn lights on and to make the driver have them on to enable cornering lights is better than otherwise.

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Brothers!

i stand corrected -

Its angle of steering OR indicator stock - not AND.

Apologies for making you sad for some time - but time to rejoice now.

Cornering Light, static
The static cornering light consists of an additional light source behind the headlight reflector. When the steering wheel is turned or the turn indicator is operated, a small additional reflector with a separate halogen bulb illuminates the area into which the vehicle is turning, over several metres at an angle of 35 degrees. As a result, the driver detects passers-by sooner, and the attention of other road users is increased by the clear signal effect of the static cornering light. This reduces the risk of an accident. Some vehicles equipped with fog lights may utilize them for active cornering lights, when the headlights are turned on.

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Gannu, we all will be patiently waiting for the update on the possibility of retrofitting the double barrels headlamps. Wish, VW would "officially" upgrade some of the features without having us go through so much trouble.
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Gannu, we all will be patiently waiting for the update on the possibility of retrofitting the double barrels headlamps. Wish, VW would "officially" upgrade some of the features without having us go through so much trouble.
Trust me, it is not going to be a trouble. I just compared the fuse layouts from our car and the standard layout.

This is the fuse layout from our car:

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Comparing it with the standard fuse layout:

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I could infer that some of the fuses on our current cars have a lower rating. When we do this swap, we may have to upgrade these fuses to the higher rating (marked by the asterisk *).

An H4 bulb draws 55/60 W (low/high beam) so that's 120 W max when the high beams are turned on whereas the H1 and H7 bulbs draws 55 W each, so that's a total power draw of 220 W when the high beams and low beams are turned on.
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Old 18th July 2014, 21:52   #144
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thanks a ton. that's some great details. the only upgrades i'll be looking to do in my pre-facelift tsi is the new headlamps and the dead pedal. i kind of prefer the red MFD as i feel it lends a more sporty feel to the cabin.

i also hope to be able to replace the beige parts in the 4 doors along with the glovebox cover to the black from the new comfortline. Is that possible ?
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During the brief test drive, I found the dead pedal to be counterintuitive!

[*]Spare wheel is a steel rim (on the Highline variant as well)

[*]Undoubtedly, the best enhancement for the facelift - the new steering wheel.
[*]And here is the most talked about cornering lamp function which is a dud IMO!

Thanks Gannu_1.

Will check the dead pedal according to my feet as well, I ain't a tall guy at all !

The spare wheel is a 14" inch steel one.
The VW India official website states this in the standard features section for Highline.

The new steering wheel is really great.

Had driven in the day, hence hadn't checked the cornering lights, but seriously


A query -
the car that I checked the other day was not showing the odometer (perhaps, not sure) and also the security lock of the remote wasn't working, when I asked the guy at VW Delhi West said that the cars are in transit mode and that they have to be changed from that mode. When I asked that after that will the odometer show 0 km or the actual mileage, he said the actual mileage.

So, I'll be going to check another Polo tomorrow and if everything seems fine, I'll approve for registration.
My questions are -
1.) What the person told about transit mode, is it right ? If yes, how do I check the mileage ? And if no, what should be done ?
2.) Normally, how does one check the mileage in Polo, particularly for the new MID, as in which button to press and for how many times, etc.

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Guys even my Octy has Static Cornering Fogs. So when at speeds below 40 kph, the turn of the steering or activating the indicator lights, activates the fog light of that direction. There is no separate bulb for cornering. When you put the car in reverse, both fogs turn on irrespective of the actual position of the knob inside. This is all identical to my Octy. Just an observation, but it all works pretty well.

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The Trendline variant lacks the chrome strip on the front bumper:
Chrome strips on the grill are a pain in the neck: they may look great n the showroom, but if you want them to stay that way it takes as much time and effort to clean and polish them as the whole of the rest of the car!
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During the brief test drive, I found the dead pedal to be counterintuitive! The dead pedal is not on the same plane as that of the clutch pedal and goes further deep so while lifting the foot it was brushing/hitting the clutch. On the automatic TSI however, the dead pedal would be productive due to the large gap since the clutch is absent.
Never been able to see the point of dead pedals! Unless one is doing a sort-of fast-fast gear-change driving, maybe, and then, as you mention, the ergonomics here look quite wrong. I'm happy to rest my foot on the floor.
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Dead pedal arrangement:
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During the brief test drive, I found the dead pedal to be counterintuitive! The dead pedal is not on the same plane as that of the clutch pedal and goes further deep so while lifting the foot it was brushing/hitting the clutch. On the automatic TSI however, the dead pedal would be productive due to the large gap since the clutch is absent.


And here is the most talked about cornering lamp function which is a dud IMO! Sorry to say this but instead of a separate bulb, the fog lamp doubles up as the cornering lamp:
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Which means, when you have the fog lamp turned ON, this feature is pointless.

Now here is the best part. On the international facelift, the cornering lamp gets a separate bulb:
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And we get a reflector inside the partition with a blank slot! That description posted by newtonMeter does not hold valid here.
This type of plastic dead pedal is the most irritating actually. Already the footwell in the Polo was cramped and it had a heavy clutch.

With this type of dead pedal, everytime you use the clutch the left side of your left foot will brush the dead pedal. Many times in stop/go traffic your left foot will get stuck to the dead pedal not allowing you press the clutch fully. You have to again lift off clutch, reposition your foot and then press the clutch slightly on the right side. Extremely irritating.

Regarding the fog lamps. It's quite shocking that there is a dummy reflector with no bulb!! Atleast it should have been an entire reflector. A blank reflector will look weird.

The Jetta also has the same setup. cornering lamps are pretty much the fog lights. So if you did not turn on the fog lights at night, they will work like cornering lights but if you did turn on fog lights then cornering feature is pointless.
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@Gannu_1 Thanks. These fleeting details would not be covered anywhere!

Were the tyres less noisy? Overdrive reported that Polo is now fitted with Apollo's Anilac tyres and not Accelere. These were reportedly less noisy.

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Chrome strips on the grill are a pain in the neck: they may look great n the showroom, but if you want them to stay that way it takes as much time and effort to clean and polish them as the whole of the rest of the car!
Amen! Although looks are completely subjective, I would prefer this all black grill sans the chrome strip.

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Never been able to see the point of dead pedals!
Dead pedals really help during stop-n-go kind of traffic when you have to frequently lift your left foot, press the clutch, rest it on the floor, lather-rinse-repeat. Especially with the Polo which has a large clutch travel and is relatively heavy.

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Already the footwell in the Polo was cramped and it had a heavy clutch.
Exactly. The footwell is cramped and this dead pedal is going to annoy a lot of users. We will see a lot of owners getting rid of the dead pedals in the manual variants. On the automatic TSI however, there is a lot of space and the dead pedal will help.

If the footwell was spacious enough to accommodate a dead pedal like this:

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It would have been great.

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So if you did not turn on the fog lights at night, they will work like cornering lights but if you did turn on fog lights then cornering feature is pointless.
I have a feeling this is merely a VCDS trick. Once I get my cluster back, I shall see if this can be enabled on the current models.

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Were the tyres less noisy? Overdrive reported that Polo is now fitted with Apollo's Anilac tyres and not Accelere. These were reportedly less noisy.
Yes, the Polo has Alnac 4G tires and not the Aceleres. But I couldn’t do much driving to comment on the road/tire noise. The review will cover this aspect.

Forgot to mention, the inverted L-type head restraints have the same center-to-center distance (150 mm) between the rods compared to the current variant so there's a good chance they can be interchanged. Since the showroom was packed yesterday, I did not want to remove the restraints and fiddle around in front of everyone. What I am not sure is if VW would be retailing these head rests separately.

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