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Old 27th December 2014, 15:14   #91
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GTO & all reviewers - Your transparency and unbiased approach have been the core values which has always reflected in your reviews. This post highlights all the hard work that goes behind the scene over 2 days.

No wonder we all wait impatiently for your reviews

Proud to be a BHPian!!!

I can understand use of Innova for taking tracking shots, how was this shot taken in motion Love it!
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There is a solid reason why each and every T-BHP review is at a level M-U-C-H above the rest, and this thread shows exactly why.

So much of painstaking effort goes into each review and to cover even the minutest details, that too in such a short period of time, which is absolutely mind-boggling. And then posting the whole experience with a complete unbiased report, thinking back to the bullet points of the cars in question, choosing pictures, adding more details, etc. No wonder the official Team-BHP review of a new car is THE benchmark amongst all of them posted out there.

I am proud to proclaim to everyone in my circles that I am a Team-BHP member. Many-a-time I have referred the reviews to my nears and dears when they are in the process of finalising a car for themselves. I am really glad that through me, a TON of people in my circles now know why I regard Team-BHP so highly: to put it in the simplest of terms, i-t-'-s s-i-m-p-l-y t-h-e b-e-s-t!!

Thank you so much, team.

As always with every Team-BHP Official Review, this one also gets a full 5-star boost! Carry on the good work!
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GTO & all reviewers - Your transparency and unbiased approach have been the core values which has always reflected in your reviews. This post highlights all the hard work that goes behind the scene over 2 days.

No wonder we all wait impatiently for your reviews

Proud to be a BHPian!!!

I can understand use of Innova for taking tracking shots, how was this shot taken in motion Love it!
Hey this is a panning shot, quite easy to take. A shutter speed of 1/30 to 1/50 and you move the camera along with the direction of the moving car while its passing.

If the light is bright, ISO of 100

F - 9 to 11 because you need sharpness and not depth of field.

I usually use a wide angle lens as the camera shake is the minimum in the 10-20 Sigma that I have.

Let me give you an example of the one I have taken, nothing great in my pictures,Just to give you an idea of one of the many angles and ways you can click them. The quality is out because I had to resize the massive 12 to 15 mb files that they were

Behind the Scenes: How Press & Media Drives Work-463861_10152934880850314_918240400_o.jpg

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Another great write up GTO. It was a delight to read this. At some point it felt as if I'm reading the official teambhp review of how media drives work. Thanks a lot for sharing with us the background work of all these reviews. From your words we can all see the hard work that you guys put in to make a car review proper and correct. It's time taking as well as physically strain full. But at the same time it's a very rare opportunity to get your hands on the car before anyone else. It must be a special feeling specially if the car you are going to review is your personal favourite as well. Thanks once again for sharing this wonderful inside story.

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Old 27th December 2014, 17:30   #95
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Hey this is a panning shot, quite easy to take...
I think what damager21 meant to ask was how that particular aerial-kind of angle was achieved

My guess is it was taken from a road on a higher elevation running parallel to the car?

BTW, those are some fantastic shots
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Thanks a ton! Very informative and brilliantly narrated. I actually felt like I was a part of the review team, present on location. Really appreciate how you guys carve out time from your professional/personal commitments to come up with such detailed reviews. The best part is the readability, like a book so well written, that you cannot put it down before completing.
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Rather than manufacturer, it really depends who you can get a hold of / strike an open conversation with at the event. And even at the same event, one engineer can be a lot more forthcoming than his colleague.

By now, a lot of them are familiar faces and hence, we know who we'll get the required information from.
One also has to know what questions to ask. Requires quite a bit of homework. Is there support staff for that, or are the reviewers on their own?

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Honestly, we don't have an equation with any manufacturer, whether it's for cars, bikes or CVs. Reason being we don't have a business relation with them (as we don't accept advertising for new car models, and don't do 'sponsored advertorials' in exchange for $$$).
By equation I mean is TBhp on their A List, Blacklist etc.

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That said, of course, we should get around to reviewing 2-wheelers as comprehensively as we do cars.
Somehow I get the feeling that the bike manufacturers don't bother with TBhp, and vice versa! (I thought the N650 had almost made a convert of you!)


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We can definitely get a V-BOX if BHPians want those stats for each car.
You'll also have to hire a track.


Needs to be seen with a person who understands todays precision mass production methods. On the other hand, the manufactures would not like such a professional person to be present, NDA or not. TBhp can fill that role:- intelligent, knowledgeable non professionals. You have to extract as much from each factory visit as you do from your drives and reviews. Leave the junketing to the clueless hacks.

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One of the best threads - and it answers many many questions that have been in my (mostly, all the BHPians) mind for a long time.

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An FAQ: Nope, we don't screw on actual Team-BHP number plates on test drive cars. They are photoshopped later on.
That's a million-dollar answer. Been wondering the legality behind driving with a Team-BHP number plate and you have answered it. But, the effort you guys are putting in Photoshop-ing is just unbelievable. Hats off!

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Quality takes time & Team-BHP Official Reviews are normally the last to go live. Honestly, we couldn't care less. Team-BHP prefers to focus on 'quality' over 'deadline', and there's no way we can publish a review within 24 - 48 hours of driving a car (as most others do). It's impossible. We follow a fanatically structured, well-researched approach...which I trust shows in all of our official reports. A Team-BHP Official Review serves BHPians & Guests for all of the 5 - 10 years that the car is on sale. We don't understand the difference that an extra week or two makes for a benchmark review.
You couldn't care more - for the BHPians. We (talking as a mouthpiece for all the BHP-ians here as I know everyone will agree), though will be looking forward to the T-BHP official review, wouldn't mind if it is delayed because of the quality and content of the review.

There had been many instances (very recently, IIRC - Maruti Ciaz review), where reviews would have already started flowing in the internet while the BHP-ians would be eagerly waiting for the official review here. During the Ciaz episode, I, for one, didn't even bother to look at other reviews as I thought it is unnecessary to spend time in getting half-baked information when all we have to get to know is just around the corner.

Thanks Mods for all the unbiased and transparent reviews that you have been giving us!
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I can understand use of Innova for taking tracking shots, how was this shot taken in motion Love it!
As Humyum said, this is a panning shot.

We found a place where Aditya could stand up on a hill, with a stretch of straight road below.

This is the un-cropped version:
Behind the Scenes: How Press & Media Drives Work-dsc00810.jpg

Of course, there were about 160 variations to choose from, in order to get just the right shot with the car in focus:
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Of course, there were about 160 variations to choose from, in order to get just the right shot with the car in focus.
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Wow ! Just curious - approximately how many pics are 'clicked' during a typical Media-Drive by the Team-Bhp reviewers ?

P.S. - I found the level of detail in the number-plate magic astounding
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approximately how many pics are 'clicked' during a typical Media-Drive by the Team-Bhp reviewers ?
In this case, those shots were in burst mode - so that's why there were so many.

Usually we come back with 500-700 pics on average, and then trim down to 90-120 for the final thread.

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Since there is more than one person who does the review, have you got into any differences of opinion in-between yourselves?
How do you resolve on what to report?
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Do car companies ask the reviewers for feedback on the car during the event? Have you seen any feedback given by you/others in the event been implemented by them?
I think such events are great opportunities for the OEM's to get honest feedback from enthusiasts and that too face to face.

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Great review and great pictures too! One thing I wanna ask GTO, is the location of the spot below, I am a Goan and would love to know where this is!

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The Smaller yet Significant Things


Manufacturers frequently offer long-termers to us...say, a new car to drive for a year or so. We politely refuse; don't need them because we have real-world ownership reports from BHPians.
Just want to add a bit more on this based on speaking to a fellow hack

1: If one takes a long termer, the expectation is that one will report out twice a month which is as good as direct advertising

2: We will not get the realistic service levels and the actual car ownership is known and they will see us coming from a mile

3: We all have other jobs and use of these cars in connection with our day job creates a conflict of interest

4: At the end of the day, it is someone else's property and we have a duty to look after it better than our own vehicle. A crazy situation happened to a fellow hack who said a bit too much to some trucker drivers, he got thrashed and they virtually totalled the test car. i would hate to explain to a manufacturer how a car got smashed up

5: We do not borrow something nice for a holiday etc. Any car given to us is used for evaluation and returned ASAP. We even ensure we have secure parking for it
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