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Old 4th January 2015, 20:28   #46
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^ I am not able to fully comprehend how total road length in Delhi could be 16 times more than that of Mumbai. Bangalore is also on the higher side, relatively speaking. The link provided cites a report that is not to be found. Would be interesting to see how they arrived at the total road length.
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The actual figures for Chennai should be higher. This is because a good part of greater Chennai is counted as belonging to Kanchipuram, Chengalpet and Tiruvallur districts. The first two are high in car ownership and most of Chennai's fast growing areas are part of these districts. A number of cars running in Chennai are also registered in Pondicherry.
Parts of Chennai under the Kanchipuram district are the fastest growing localities. Noticing vehicle registration numbers in Chennai, one can easily notice that TN22 is the series that has the maximum number of vehicles and it comes under the kanchipuram district.
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Totally surprised by the statistics esp for Mumbai. When compared to Thane city which has 15L vehicles the Mumbai figures seems to be totally out of place. I guess the stats are for a particular price bracket cars, the link talks about wealthy buyers and BMW's/Mercs and et all.
The data of Mumbai excludes Thane and Navi Mumbai as they have different Octroi and Tax structure.
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^ I am not able to fully comprehend how total road length in Delhi could be 16 times more than that of Mumbai. Bangalore is also on the higher side, relatively speaking. The link provided cites a report that is not to be found. Would be interesting to see how they arrived at the total road length.
Data for Delhi and Bangalore acquired from here: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...w/28566375.cms. Data for Mumbai acquired from this article: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...w/17864082.cms.
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Hi GTO,

Good find this one!

I remember reading a similar article about 8 years ago which said Delhi, at the time, had more cars than the other 3 metro's (Chennai, Mumbai, Calcutta) put together!

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We all knew that Delhi forms the biggest car market in India. What was a surprising fact - at least to me - was that the capital has more cars than the next 3 cities combined!
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A few factors that come to my mind when it comes to Delhi's large car population:
  1. Historically, the security situation for women has been an issue, with most families preferring to buy vehicles to ensure their safety. My F-I-L keeps telling me that in the early 1990s and late 1980s even Connought Place used to get deserted after 7.00 pm. Even today, go to a remote suburb in Delhi, and the feeling is not like Mumbai
  2. The metro has come to the scene rather late, in the past four years or so. Earlier the buses (red line and blue line, etc.) were a miserable place to be for women. People used to buy second hand cars at least to spare the horror for their family.
  3. Delhi is a huge city. Before the metro came, there was hardly a public transport system, unlike Mumbai (BEST), which would criss-cross and connect the entire city consistently, comprehensively, and frequently (timely).
  4. Delhi has always been a bit of a show-off, as pointed out earlier in the forum.
  5. Cars are cheaper.
  6. Fuel is cheaper. Petrol costs are 7 odd rupees cheaper than Mumbai.
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Old 5th January 2015, 14:22   #52
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Delhi always lead the race, Haryana registration is probably cheaper to Delhi.
I am not sure if NCR is counted or this is just Delhi.

In Case of Mumbai, It is just clubbing all Mumbai region RTO, but Mumbai also has many cars registered in Neighboring Thane, Navi Mumbai & Panvel.

The figures would then probably change a little.
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A few factors that come to my mind when it comes to Delhi's large car population:
  1. The metro has come to the scene rather late, in the past four years or so. Earlier the buses (red line and blue line, etc.) were a miserable place to be for women. People used to buy second hand cars at least to spare the horror for their family.
  2. Delhi is a huge city. Before the metro came, there was hardly a public transport system, unlike Mumbai (BEST), which would criss-cross and connect the entire city consistently, comprehensively, and frequently (timely).
  3. Delhi has always been a bit of a show-off, as pointed out earlier in the forum.
I think the above three points are the major reasons for buying a car in Delhi. Blue lines, Red Lines and earlier DTCs were miserable place even for men to commute. There was no local train service (its not there even today) like Mumbai or Kolkata for daily commuters.

Even for outstation travel, Delhi never had a good long distance bus service to cities that can be reached overnight. The decent bus service to Jaipur and Chandigarh is a recent phenomena and that too is far from the standards of long distant buses running elsewhere in the country.
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The more the roads, the greater the population of cars.
A quick look at the graph below tells us why Delhi still has a better traffic situation (average traffic speed) even though it has more cars than the next 3 cities - because it also has the highest total road length by a very long margin, highest road density as well as the largest road space-to-city area ratio, as compared to the next 4 cities.


Looks like this graph covered only SoBo (South Bombay) roads !

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Totally surprised by the statistics esp for Mumbai. When compared to Thane city which has 15L vehicles the Mumbai figures seems to be totally out of place. I guess the stats are for a particular price bracket cars, the link talks about wealthy buyers and BMW's/Mercs and et all.
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The 15L Thane figure has a chunk of 2 wheelers.
IIRC, Thane District(that included the likes of the newly formed VVMC-Virar-Vasai belt), 2 wheeler count was >10 lacs.
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Have always been late when it comes to providing solutions - We got ring road in 2001-02 when city was already witnessing boom and planners built that with traffic signals in future only to construct flyover and underpasses 10 years later!
The ORR in Bengaluru was constructed in 1985-86 with two lanes and upgraded to 4 lanes after 2000
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While Delhi (Delhi NCR) definitely remains the biggest car market in India this data is definitely skewed to a certain extent. What happens usually is that all sources consider the volumes of the entire NCR region while quoting figures for Delhi. In most cases this figure is clearly defined as "Delhi NCR". I think WSJ should have clearly specified this point.

With regards to Mumbai, due to the lack of an official "Mumbai region" which includes Mumbai, Thane and Panvel the Mumbai sales data only includes the three RTOs which come under the Mumbai municipal corporation limits (MH-01,02,03) and does not include the neighbouring RTOs in Thane, Panvel and Navi Mumbai. A huge number of Mumbai car owners get their cars registered in these neighbouring places to avoid paying Octroi which forms a pretty substantial part of a car's value.

Hence, while there is no doubt that Delhi NCR is the biggest car market, we probably need to take a look at some other data to get an accurate comparison with other cities.
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The ORR in Bengaluru was constructed in 1985-86 with two lanes and upgraded to 4 lanes after 2000
(It was 6 lanes all the way barring certain stretches)

So did that still not make sense for the planners to make ORR signal free than build underpasses and overpasses after 10 years?

Look at Hyderabad, Surat, Indore's Outer Ring roads - They do justice to be called as Ring roads.

Do you agree that the city was witnessed exponential growth right from 2000 onward or trying to say we were way ahead in building ORR In 85-86 but still failed to use common sense to upgrade it to be signal free to make way for better tomorrow?

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(It was 6 lanes all the way barring certain stretches)

So did that still not make sense for the planners to make ORR signal free than build underpasses and overpasses after 10 years?

Look at Hyderabad, Surat, Indore's Outer Ring roads - They do justice to be called as Ring roads.

Do you agree that the city was witnessed exponential growth right from 2000 onward or trying to say we were way ahead in building ORR In 85-86 but still failed to use common sense to upgrade it to be signal free to make way for better tomorrow?
I agree Bengaluru has witnessed exponential growth after 2000 and SG was sleeping in not constructing the PRR and also we are very ahead in building ORR which is fact
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Taking the topic further, 25,10,367 cars were sold in India in 2014 out of which 50% were sold in 25/153 cities!

No prizes for guessing, Delhi alone, contributed nearly 10% of the total car sales in India.

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