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Old 7th December 2015, 18:19   #91
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Default Mahindra Canto spied again

This time around, new images have cropped up on the internet, revealing some more exterior details. The face bears a lot of resemblance with the 2014 Scorpio, due to the hexagonal grill with 6 vertical slats and headlamps which appear to have DRL eyelids. This car is likely to sport a hood scoop as well. Not much seems different in the side and rear profile apart from the LED tail lamps. It might also get a different alloy wheel pattern too.

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I still fail to see why the Quanto is being pushed here. The TUV 300 has pretty much plugged all the areas the Qunato failed at, except perhaps M&M not offering 4WD and a slightly more powerful engine.

Btwn, any news about the TUV 500 variant? the slightly longer version and more powerful engine.
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I still fail to see why the Quanto is being pushed here. The TUV 300 has pretty much plugged all the areas the Qunato failed at, except perhaps M&M not offering 4WD and a slightly more powerful engine.

Btwn, any news about the TUV 500 variant? the slightly longer version and more powerful engine.
Exactly. I see no reason for the Quanto to exist anymore! When TUV 300 was announced, I had assumed it would be a replacement for the Quanto but looks like Mahindra wants to flog it further. Wonder why? Not like it has a market share of any sort to defend!
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Default Re: The Mahindra Quanto Facelift. EDIT: Might be called Canto

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Apart from design, what I don't understand is why should they introduce a facelift for Quanto, while they got a worthy replacement in TUV300. Probably M&M want to provide more compact SUV choices to customer, just to bring customer to showrooms, and don't care if they cant sell Quanto, as long as customer buys something. (Strategy adopted by Maruti by offering many products in same price bracket / same segment). If so, why a facelift now.
The only reason I can think of is that the Quanto's output - with fundamentally the same engine - is roughly 15 bhp /10 nm (98/240) higher than the TUV300's. And this seems to be the one major grouse against the TUV.
While the Quanto is 50 kgs heavier than the TUV (1640/1590, kerb wts), still, despite this, the original Quanto is quicker off the mark than the TUV.

If the face lifted Quanto has incorporated changes more than skin-deep - for example the ladder-frame hydro-formed chassis of the TUV, which would shave of the extra weight. And adding the AMT would give it the necessary bling. And if the engine output of the original Quanto was retained (or enhanced, since there is still enough scope for development) while tweaking the FE to more acceptable levels, then the new Quanto/Canto can make a better case for itself. In any case, the earlier Quanto couldn't have sunk much lower in the sales charts. So if M&M want to seriously give it a better shot, then these are areas one would think of right away, apart from cosmetic upgrades to the interiors & exteriors. Because contemplating deeper changes (to the sheet metal for example) frankly boggles the imagination - specially with an established winner like the TUV300 already on the roads.
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Mahindra Quanto facelift which might be called Canto, rendered by autocar India.
The front looks very aggressive indeed and goes wel with the overall design of the car unlike current generation.
Hope Xylo would get similar treatment.

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This will work if they position it as the 'base variant' TUV 300. Strip it down to bare essentials, A cosmetic makeover, undercut the TUV 300 significantly. Just like the VERSA turned into the EECO.
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Amazing , now if this is exactly how the new quanto is going to look like even with the old spec sheet i am sure it will do good numbers , just that they need to price it smartly to ensure that it does not eat into tuv 300 market share which is already not very high . I found the quanto as good car but its just the looks and the weird roof design which was not acceptable. With the new nose , bonnet and bumper this car looks a lot better than the previous model. Might as well consider buying one if the price is right .
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This will work if they position it as the 'base variant' TUV 300. Strip it down to bare essentials, A cosmetic makeover, undercut the TUV 300 significantly. Just like the VERSA turned into the EECO.
I think it will sell alongside or might be about 50K cheaper than TUV300, and they will share the same engine but interior will be different as Quanto is wider than TUV.
Looking at that hood scoop I hope the new Quanto or Canto will have the 2.2L mHawk engine producing 120BHP, and would be launched in 4x4 avatar as well like the recently launched Italian version. But that's just wishful thinking as when it comes to pricing it seems this cannot happen. TUV T8+ comes very close to Xylo H4 variant which comes with 2.2L mHawk, if the new Quanto is equipped with the same engine I don't think there is any space between TUV and Xylo where Mahindra can position it, in fact then Quanto will come so close to Xylo that price difference would become negligible. Also recently there was a first hand account on test driving the new Quanto was posted, reading which it seems engine is same as the TUV300.
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If the face lifted Quanto has incorporated changes more than skin-deep - for example the ladder-frame hydro-formed chassis of the TUV, which would shave of the extra weight. And adding the AMT would give it the necessary bling.
Quanto was basically a monocoque (If I am correct), and so, they would not be making it based on ladder on frame chassis. The primary reason Quanto failed was the unappealing styling, which looks like part of the car is missing.
Hope Mahindra comes out here with a very appealing style and show it to the world that, even Quanto can actually be very pleasing to eyes (in the line of Ecosport!).
And, with AMT, I am not very sure, how such big cars can function well with AMT, with their jerky shifts.
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Quanto was basically a monocoque (If I am correct), and so, they would not be making it based on ladder on frame chassis. .
Quanto does not have a monocoque chassis. It is a ladder on frame one.
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Quanto was basically a monocoque (If I am correct), and so, they would not be making it based on ladder on frame chassis. The primary reason Quanto failed was the unappealing styling, which looks like part of the car is missing.
Hope Mahindra comes out here with a very appealing style and show it to the world that, even Quanto can actually be very pleasing to eyes (in the line of Ecosport!).
And, with AMT, I am not very sure, how such big cars can function well with AMT, with their jerky shifts.
Hi hybridpetrol,

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm 63+, so I cant be dogmatic about my memory!) but I seem to remember that the Quanto is based on a shortened Xylo platform(same W.B.=2760mm) which had a body-on-frame structure. M&M's first monocoque effort is the XUV500, not counting the Verito, which is a Renault at heart.

You took the words out of my mouth! - I too am hoping that the Quanto/Canto facelift is more than just skin-deep and that M&M can resuscitate the dying duck that the current Quanto has turned out to be.

About the AMT, I understand that it is a robust and reliable mechanism and various adaptations have been used in high performance cars - BMW, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo among others. ZF Sachs (who are supplying the unit to M&M) has units capable of handling engine torque in the range of 1000 nm (refer the ZF Sachs website), so their utility in bigger cars should not be an issue. But the buttery smoothness of torque-converter automatics is probably not going to be in the AMT ambit! On the other hand, the claimed FE and outright performance of the AMT is its strong suit.
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Good design, I think this looks more like a mini XUV, compared to the earlier Quanto/"Mini Xylo".

If the suspension is tuned like the XUV, Mahindra has a clear winner here!
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Why don't they do this to the Xylo and give it a fresh lease of life. Mahindra does have the TUV in the sub 4 meter SUV (if I can call them that way!!) where they seem to be soon well and an upgraded Xylo can be positioned against the Ertigas, Lodgys and the Mobilios where they aren't doing well, no?
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Could M&M be unifying lineups of some sort. I can think of two possibilities here:

1) The Canto becomes the XUV300, the S101 becomes the XUV100 and the XUV500 becomes the top of the lineup ( The only flipside is that, Canto is not a monocoque chassis like the other two XUV's)

2) The Canto & Xylo (which is also due for a refresh) takes a new lineup route and becomes a people's carrier type of lineup ( CUV series, etc)

I don't see any other reason why they reworked on the Quanto / Canto, even though its now being pushed internationally with a 2.2L mHawk.
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Why don't they do this to the Xylo and give it a fresh lease of life. Mahindra does have the TUV in the sub 4 meter SUV (if I can call them that way!!) where they seem to be soon well and an upgraded Xylo can be positioned against the Ertigas, Lodgys and the Mobilios where they aren't doing well, no?
I did have the same opinion. Especially plonk the AMT on a facelifted xylo with very much improved interior quality comparable to the scorpio or tuv300 and this would give an good option for 7 seater against Ertiga or Lodgy (or not sure even then upcoming BRV?).
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