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Old 5th June 2015, 10:03   #31
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I dont think the turbo charged engine is going to find its way to Alto in India. The segment is very price sensitive and people will normally not worry about the superior technology unless there are very significant benefits that warrants price rise. Adding a turbo engine to Alto might drive its price up which is what Maruti will be wary off in India.

What might be a good move would be to have Turbo K10, K12 and K14 for the higher cars.

Swift with Turbo K10. One or two variants having Turbo K12.
Ertiga with Turbo K12, Upcoming Hatch YRA with Turbo K12 and Turbo K14, Ciaz with Turbo K12 and K14, S Cross with Turbo K14.

Sharing engines across the range will also help in keeping the costs down. Every model has a variant that satisfies enthusiasts and normal public at least on the Power front.
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Swift with Turbo K10. One or two variants having Turbo K12.
Ertiga with Turbo K12, Upcoming Hatch YRA with Turbo K12 and Turbo K14, Ciaz with Turbo K12 and K14, S Cross with Turbo K14.
YRA and its Suzuki's newer generation pertrol vehicles will use the Boosterjet 1.0l engines

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The 1.4l turbo engine(boosterjet family) will find its way in S Cross, Ciaz and Ertiga.

The next Gen Alto will get the 658cc powertrain that is sold in the Japanese Alto and could come in two states of tune, a non-VVT equipped version for lower level and a high-output turbocharged version, for India

http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...ne-395024.aspx

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Maruti imports 6 Alto's from Japan for development of the next Gen Alto for India.

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New Maruti Alto coming in 2017.

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The new-generation Alto will be based on the Alto Kei platform, but it will be redesigned to suit the requirement of the Indian audience. The Alto 800 and the new K10 were also designed for the Indian car market in specific
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The new-generation Alto will get a new 658cc engine that will come in two states one producing about 53bhp and the turbo version will produce about 62bhp. These will be implemented for the emission norms and even better fuel efficiency. The Alto will have ARAI fuel efficiency in excess of 32km/l. So, the Alto K10 engine will be replaced by the turbo engine and the regular 796cc by 658cc. There will be an AMT (automated manual transmission) as well
http://motoroctane.com/news/17453-sc...coming-in-2017
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In my opinion, this new design looks good actually. While the headlamps slightly resemble the previous gen Alto in India, the tail lamps are something which we have never seen in recent days in our market. Overall the body slightly resembles the previous gen Alto, but given a fresh dual tone.
Having an engine of 658cc is a good strategy, as skimping on engine specifications, is the way forward for cost cutting and increasing FE.
I am sure that my below guesses probably will be true for our market:
a) The headlamps looks are not something to the current tastes of masses. Will be replaced by swept back headlamps.
b) Who wants a car without chrome? There will be a chrome plated grill around the 'S' badge.
c) Tail lamps will probably go their usual places of a typical car, rather than this 'truck' type of arrangement.
d) Rear wipers? Will be skipped as there are no rules to make it mandatory in hatchbacks.
Similarly on Safety features front, based on the Government norms prevailing at that point of time, whatever is mandatory, that will be provided. e.g. If the norms say, driver airbag is mandatory, and nothing else is mentioned, just that will be provided and nothing else.
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Another variant of the Alto - 2015 Suzuki Alto Lapin and delivers a fuel economy rating of 35.6 km/l

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...ry-96300.html#
This Lapin looks really cute, but as always we will get the worst possible looking contraception :( Alto's are getting wierder in looks as they progress in generations, hope the 2017 will see something fresh in design.

BTW in the flat rear door design, where are the tail lamps? Are they on the bumper?
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Front appears to be inspired by the new Uno whereas the sides and rear are inspired by the VW Up. Unfortunately cannot upload pictures for comparison due to slow net connection on board the ship.

http://www.autoevolution.com/cars/fi...0-14-5mt-85-hp

http://loopele.com/2013-volkswagen-up-4-door/
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Looks a lot like the Daihatsu Materia.

Anyway looks won't matter for the Maruti crowd - people who drive design disasters like the Dzire, new Alto, Celery etc don't really care about looks/design.

Give them a nice engine on a ultra-light body that translates to more KMPL and they will even buy a cardboard box with wheels from Maruti.

In fact Suzuki should patent the term KMPL.
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Basically these small cars are KEI Cars as known in Japan. Kei cars are very popular in Japan because they are inexpensive – about half the price of a Prius, they get the same fuel economy as a Prius, they are very practical and roomy, they are easy to park in crowded Japan, and they have lower taxes and licensing costs. Women make up approximately 65% of the owners, and in some Prefectures, 99% of households own one, often as a second car. They are more popular in rural areas as compared to a big city like Tokyo, where it is more convenient to take public transit and owning a car is not as necessary as a more rural area.

The Kei cars in Japan are made by all the major Japanese auto manufacturers, and they are becoming increasingly loaded with high technology based on customer demand – turbochargers, infotainment systems, airbags, remote controlled doors, keyless start, collision avoidance systems, CVT, and four wheel drive.

One advantage of these small cars is that they contribute to lowering the amount of oil imports into Japan. At current oil prices, Japan has a net outflow of $100 billion/year from their economy from oil imports. The automotive sector in Japan has been steadily lowering its oil consumption over the past 10 years.

In Japan, small 660 cc engine Kei-cars are very noticeable, especially in the more rural areas. In the past few years in Japan, approximately 40% of new cars sold are Kei cars.
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If these rumours are to be believed then the most probable reason for Maruti Suzuki to go ahead with such a plan must to be come out with most fuel efficient car without compromising on the performance. With the petrol prices continuing to remain high, may be the company is toying with this very idea to woo more and more prospective potential customers in this segment.
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This Lapin looks really cute, but as always we will get the worst possible looking contraception :( Alto's are getting wierder in looks as they progress in generations, hope the 2017 will see something fresh in design.
I like the Lapin too - Retro looks - Old Mini Cooper like shape and this one looks fully loaded and automatic. Wish we got that in 1.0 Boosterjet version.
The engine note kind of reminds me of my dad's first Maruti 800
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A couple of Altos were spotted during a testing run by Team-BHPian sidindica near Solan, Himachal Pradesh. Upon enquiring, he learnt that the Altos were "undergoing engine updates".

This makes me wonder if the Altos were sporting the turbo-petrol hearts inside them.

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A couple of Altos were spotted during a testing run by Team-BHPian sidindica near Solan, Himachal Pradesh. Upon enquiring, he learnt that the Altos were "undergoing engine updates".

This makes me wonder if the Altos were sporting the turbo-petrol hearts inside them.

All pictures courtesy sidindica.
This could be the 800CC Diesel engine on test. No chance a turbo Petrol in the current version of Alto, IMO. It may come in the next gen Alto.

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This could be the 800CC Diesel engine on test. No chance a turbo Petrol in Alto in the current version of Alto, IMO. It may come in the next gen Alto.
Forgot to add in my post - both the Altos on test were petrols, as was clarified.

Look closely and you can make out the "VXi" badging on the rear as well.

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Forgot to add in my post - both the Altos on test were petrols, as was clarified.

Look closely and you can make out the "VXi" badging on the rear as well.
As per Zauba, only the Japanese Alto cars as a whole is imported, no engines are imported separately (and a Hustler too!).

If your assumption is correct, then Maruti might have started making the 658CC Turbo engine here in India and testing might be happening in the current Alto. Once the new gen Alto's body shell is ready, they may plonk the engine there and retest. This kind of testing is common in other countries.
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