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Old 14th August 2015, 17:35   #241
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The government is returning you the road tax for the remaining five years in the form of the 30k, so it's no incentive at all. I guess the best option is to keep our cars unlocked in the middle of the night and get them picked up by thieves and then claim the IDV (which definitely will be more than the incentive) from insurance company.
I would not be surprised if the insurance company also denies your claim on this ground that the car is no longer deemed road worthy and hence not supposed to exist in the first place.
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Default Re: National Green Tribunal says, 10 year old Diesel Vehicles banned in Delhi

Read about their funny antics here.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/48653831.cms

Sending notices to bus makers, for what seems the operators fault. Asking operators to invest more money in operating smaller buses, what about fleet costs and mantainance? Asking why only a couple of people are travelling in the afternoon? Do they expect DTC to force people into buses? Complaining about loud sounds from the buses.. Did they measure the sound using a decibel meter?
Sorry the green tribunal sounds like a bunch of bored retirees on a mission to glorify themselves.
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Read about their funny antics here.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/48653831.cms

Sending notices to bus makers, for what seems the operators fault. Asking operators to invest more money in operating smaller buses, what about fleet costs and mantainance? Asking why only a couple of people are travelling in the afternoon? Do they expect DTC to force people into buses? Complaining about loud sounds from the buses.. Did they measure the sound using a decibel meter?
Sorry the green tribunal sounds like a bunch of bored retirees on a mission to glorify themselves.
They seriously need advise from pragmatic industry experts - its part common sense (dont ply empty buses/ply smaller buses on non-busy routes/times), part garbage.

This bit just gave me a headache:
Buses would be subjected to check for pollution under control (PUC) certificate at least twice a month!

WHAT? That makes no sense whatsoever and will just introduce a PUC-charade!


But even the common sense should be the govt's job - they should ensure DTC doesnt burn money, not the NGT's. I don't see a systematic solution coming out of this - just more non-cohesive nice sounding stuff that cannot work.

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its part common sense , part garbage
Very aptly put

They are even pinning the safety standards of the bus design to the DTC's forehead. I am sure they realize DTC does not manufacture buses

They ask for specific responses whilst their statements are as vague as:
"Have you ever seen a single bus which does not make horrible noise. Their noise is annoying. if anyone is behind that bus he will get mad within no time."



It seems they keep giving out wishlists, without actually talking about implementation and ongoing governance. These guys must take up quite a bit of the taxpayers' money
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This is positively pointless, feckless and unjustifiable. I have a rare, practically irreplaceable and perfectly maintained Octavia Combi L&K that I do not want to get rid of. Does anyone know if I can still keep it (registration is valid for a few more years) or is that illegal too?
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As reported today:

Commercial vehicles entering the capital could very soon find themselves paying a pollution surcharge in addition to regular toll taxes if a proposal put forward by amicus curiae Harish Salve comes into effect.
Expressing grave concern at the alarmingly high levels of pollution in the city the Supreme Court on Monday asked for a "quick positive response" from the Centre and Delhi government on the possibility of a pollution tax on commercial vehicles passing through the Capital, which has the dirtiest air in the world.
The Union government, during the hearing, indicated it was not averse to a levy of Rs 600 being imposed on light vehicles and Rs 1,200 on heavy vehicles.
A bench headed by Chief Justice of India HL Dattu fixed October 8 as the date to hear senior advo cate Harish Salve's plea favouring a 'pollution tax'.
On a personal note, Justice Dattu referred to his grandson who was forced to wear a 'ninja like' mask to protect himself from the pollution.
Salve too highlighted deterioration in his asthma problem, a disease that runs in his family. He also stated that besides taxis, nearly 50,000 commercial vehicles enter Delhi further aggravating the problem.

No clearance on AGE limit though.

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Odd and even number vehicles to be allowed in Delhi on alternate days.

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This means that from January 1, 2016, if vehicles with number plates ending with an odd number can be driven one day, only those ending with an even number can be brought out the next day. This will not apply to public vehicles.
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Car rental companies will be the most benefited. The auto lobby should also be made to provide a minimum buy back value for certain milage table. Else people will rent rather than buy. Then only taxi segment cars will sell.
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This news could hit the carmakers real hard. No new diesel cars would be registered in Delhi, country's biggest car market. Other cities are on the radar as well

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No new diesel vehicles will be registered in Delhi, the National Green Tribunal has said.

It has also directed the Centre and state government not to buy any diesel vehicles for their departments.

A petition seeking a ban on diesel cars in Delhi and other cities will be heard by the Supreme Court on December 15.

Petitioner Arvind Gupta has requested the Chief Justice of India, TS Thakur, to hear the case.


Justice Thakur said that Delhi pollution cases were being taken up on 15 December and this petition would also be taken up the same day.

The petition filed in 2013 has gained currency as policy-makers and experts worry about the severe pollution levels in Delhi.

As a radical step to cut down pollution, the Delhi government has announced that from the New Year, odd and even numbered cars will be allowed on alternate days. The system will be tested for 15 days, says the government.

Yesterday, the top court called the pollution in Delhi 'embarrassing'.

"Delhi has earned a bad name that it is the most polluted city. Last week a Judge came from International Court of Justice to Delhi. It is very embarrassing for us to tell him that this is the level of pollution in Delhi," said the court.

The Chief Justice questioned why "there was no discussion taking place, no forum is provided" to deal with the problem.

"If you expect us to provide solution to every problem, it is not possible," said Justice Thakur, hearing a petition filed by highway toll operators who had said that they could not collect the 'Green Cess' announced in October from trucks entering the city.

This case will also be heard on December 15.
Source: http://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/shoul...ber-15-1253689

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This news could hit the carmakers real hard. No new diesel cars would be registered in Delhi, country's biggest car market. Other cities are on the radar as well



Source: http://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/shoul...ber-15-1253689

These are sensible moves. India should make ownership of cars far more expensive to move people to either public transport or electric vehicles.
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This news could hit the carmakers real hard. No new diesel cars would be registered in Delhi, country's biggest car market. Other cities are on the radar as well
Absolutely agree, this news can be a gamechanger in Indian Auto Industry. Being a Diesel car-owner and in the hunt for a new one, this news brings me to have a totally different view of the situation, I am sure there are many folks like me who will face he same dilemma now. Although I know, being in Kolkata, such type of rules will take ages to apply, but still its making me think a different perspective.

Will Ciaz SHVS fall into this category, although thats diesel but its hybrid too (so called)?
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These are sensible moves. India should make ownership of cars far more expensive to move people to either public transport or electric vehicles.
I am hearing news in one channel that this ban is only for govt vehicles and does not apply to personal vehicles
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Very sensible move and this should be implemented across the country. I have never really understood why people buy (or be allowed to buy) diesel car for personal use in a country like India.
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Very sensible move and this should be implemented across the country. I have never really understood why people buy (or be allowed to buy) diesel car for personal use in a country like India.
Diesel is cheaper than Petrol thanks to the subsidies. So it is natural to prefer diesel vehicles over petrol. We have been tuned by our policy makers over the years to gravitate towards Diesel vehicles.

Delhi is serving as a wake-up call for all of us. Not sure if there would be any sweeping changes in the way we think about personal transportation going forward but at least people have started discussing this issue. That's a step in the right direction.
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I have never really understood why people buy (or be allowed to buy) diesel car for personal use in a country like India.
Even though diesel fuel is slightly expensive to refine than petrol, the price of diesel is cheaper by a fair margin in India. Hence the folks here rush to buy diesel cars, even though the cost of diesel cars are higher than that of petrol cars. This is because Govt has extra tax on petrol, which makes it costier.

Solution is simple. Govt should tax both diesel & petrol similarly. Demand for diesel cars will fall automatically.
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