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Old 11th June 2015, 02:13   #1
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Default 2016 BMW 7 Series. EDIT: Now spotted in India (page 3)

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The new 2016 BMW 7 Series launched with notable features such as Gesture Controls, Laserlight, Carbon Core and James Bond like Remote Control Parking. The BMW flagship has not skimped on the long list of technologies and industry firsts.

The Carbon Core uses a mix of carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic and ultra-high-tensile steel for the 7's major structural components and is largely responsible for the 130kg weight reduction, along with the aluminum doors and trunk lid. And has thus resulted in a fifty-fifty weight distribution.

Like its predecessor, the new BMW 7 Series is offered in two body variants. The wheelbase of the extended version of the luxury sedan is 14 centimetres longer, at 3,210 millimetres, and offers extra rear space as a result. At 5,098 millimetres in length (long-wheelbase version: 5,238 mm), 1,902 mm in width and 1,478 (1,485) in height, the new BMW 7 Series is the largest series-produced car the brand has ever built.

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BMW will offer initially four models of 7 Series, the 730d, 740i, the 740e and 750i, all of which will be available in long wheelbase variants.

BMW 750i xDrive (BMW 750Li xDrive) - Redeveloped V8 engine with 4.4 liter displacement , BMW TwinPower producing 450hp at 5,500–6,000 rpm and 650 Newton meters (480 lb-ft) of torque at 1,800–4,500 rpm.
BMW 740i (BMW 740Li) - Inline 6-cylinder engine with BMW TwinPower Turbo technology 3 liter displacement and 326 hp at 5,500–6,500 rpm. Max. torque: 450 Nm / 332 lb-ft at 1,380–5,000 rpm.
BMW 740e xDrive plug-in hybrid (BMW 740Le, BMW 740Le xDrive) - The engine is a 2.0 liter four-cylinder petrol engine and an electric motor, which together generate total system output of 240 kW/326 hp.
BMW 730d (BMW 730Ld) - 3.0 liter in size and has a total output of 265 hp at 4,000 rpm, max. torque: 620 Nm / 457 lb-ft at 2,000–2,500 rpm.

Transmission and suspension

All 7 Series will come standard with a ZF-sourced eight-speed Steptronic transmission , 2-axle automatic self-leveling Air suspension and Dynamic Damper Control.

The new 7 series features :-

• Groundbreaking Carbon Core passenger cell
• World's first Gesture Control
• Active Kidney Grille and Air Breather
• Now offering the optional 7 inch Touch Command Tablet
• The All- New Display Key as a standalone option
• Offering standard Wireless Charging and WiFi Hotspot
• The new iDrive 5.0 with touch screen technology
• Panoramic Sky Lounge LED roof, Ambiance Lighting, LED Light Carpet
• Largest HUD in the industry
• Class leading performance and luxury
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While it looks good, its more of an evolutionary design than an all new look also as if it wasnt enough confusing already, it now resembles the 5 series even more & looks more like a bigger 5.

Not sure how much sense the display Key makes, with keyless everything people don't want to bother about fiddling with the keys anymore and are happy as long as they just need to have it with them. May be it allows BMW to put more features on the key (haven't watched full video yet) but a better option would have been to just make all these features available via a Mobile app.

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Lovely tech but thats about it. The new Benz has it licked when it comes to interior luxury and the look and feel of luxury. The interiors look like bloated 5 series interiors. Nothing special. The new Benz even looks better on the outside.
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Damn. Two years after the W222 S-Class and this is what they come up with ?

I loved the outgoing-gen F01's styling, but this one is utterly characterless. Hate his new BMW design theme of how the headlamps meet the grille. Didn't like it in the 3-Series, and sure looks awful on the 7-Series.

The F01 ride was never as cushiony as the W221 S-Class. Mercedes moved the game forward with 'magic body control'. BMW doesn't seem to have any response to that?

The S-Class owns the new 7-Series. When the W222 was launched, the world went 'wow'. For the BMW, it's more of a 'meh'. Looks like a grown-up 3-Series.



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Who designed this headlamp ? It's going to take someone with no aesthetic sense to design one like this and can't imagine the aesthetic sense of someone who is gonna plonk more than a crore on this. If I were gonna buy a car of this class, this headlamp is enough reason to find me at the Merc dealership!
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BMW has made some good mechanical changes in terms of weight reduction and improved efficiency, but how on earth do they expect buyers to take that at face value when the car has a face like that? The W222 S-Class was such a revolutionary change and genuinely shook up the market. This is barely a sneeze in a hurricane.

Everything's gone bulkier and uglier since the E38.

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I have mixed feelings, while I don't particularly like the headlights, I'll wait to see it in real life before I make my decision. The looks may grow on me, the same way the F30s looks did.

As for the tech, I think they've done a good job. Its got something similar to MBC of Merc, where a camera scans the road for bumps at slow speeds.

Another significant feature is the full air suspension, the earlier 7 had the air suspension only at the rear. Considering BMW owns Rolls Royce I'm guessing this suspension would be pretty comfortable.

The other cool thing is the gesture control, the auto park thing doesn't really fascinate me.

Many people who saw the 7 in a special preview in the United States wrote on BMW forums that the interior quality has gone up a notch, so I expect it to be pretty good.

The diesel engines have a nice power bump, with the 740d topping off at 320bhp.

All in all, I am pleased, but not surprised as when the W222 S class came out.
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Guys check out the M-Sport G11 7 Series;

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Looking more aggressive than the standard model, this one wears modified body kit, black accents & 19" M Alloy wheels

Seems the new design (headlight - grille integration) isnt a bad one, specially really looks handsome in the M Sport avatar

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Guys check out the M-Sport G11 7 Series
Apples to apples, Karan . M-Sport vs AMG kit.

She appears to be telling the new 7-Series "Who's your daddy?"
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Even in the M-Sport pics you uploaded, the side & rear are nice. But the front, I just can't get myself to accept the headlamp <-> grille merge. It's also the only design touch I hate about the F30 3-Series.
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Apples to apples, Karan . M-Sport vs AMG kit.

She appears to be telling the new 7-Series "Who's your daddy?"
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True, the W222 S is ahead of the game. Be it in terms of design, comfort or also may be performance (AMG models).

Any person buying a car in this segment would only buy the 7'er if he has already owned a S or an A8 and wants a change or probably a hardcore BMW fanboy who'l blind buy any BMW.

One thing is for sure that the looks will grow on us & BMW clearly wants us to accept this change

Also, do note and pay close attention to the grille;

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^ Dont be surprised if in the next gen there is a much more distinct character line merging the grilles & the kidney grilles may be gone too.
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The front end looks hideous. It almost looks old and grumpy. And well, the rear reminds me of a Camry.

However, the rear seats now look so much more comfortable, in fact, they remind me of a Rolls' back seat.

Only evolutionary, nothing too great.

Was expecting more from BMW.
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To me this one is a really expensive ugly looking car! The grills look ugly and out of place and the DRLs look like aftermarket fitments. Had expected something special from BMW considering the price-point & competition of this car!
I reckon this 7-Series will have a hard time competing against the superbly beautiful S-Class.
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Voila! It is almost a repeat of what used to happen with the previous generations:

BMW 3 Series- The ruddy best Compact. Period.

The BMW 5 Series- The best midsize luxury car. Period.

But the BMW 7 Series always looks meh in front of the Mercedes Benz S.

Nothing can beat the S. Period.

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History repeats itself. However; do we notice something?

Mercedes Benz W205 (The current C) is anyday better than the BMW F30 (the current 3 Series)

That the new generation E is expected any minute?

This is back to the Sixties; and the Seventies- when BMW was well and truly struggling; and Mercedes Benz ruled the roost!

And nowadays; Merc is back to making truly awesome cars.

All hail Mercedes!


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I quite like the look - in fact, the smartest looking 7 till date, imho. Also, this is the first 7 that I can see myself driving, and yet, it retains the 'I can buy your country: stay away, serf' persona.

And even though the new S is incredibly smart, for me, this one is a more timeless design. But then design is always subjective, so that.

BUT, it's a car, so for me, it will finally be not about the design, but about the drive, even within the luxury / comfort expectations of this category of cars. And it is there that the 7 will be light years ahead of the S - as seems to be the verdict even from the preview drives of the prototypes.

The same thing happened with the C: I was in love with the looks, until I drove it, after which my love for the 3 returned, despite it's spartan interiors, and muted exteriors.

And it is in this critical area, where Beemers continue to nail it - though arguably, not with the same purity of purpose as the BMWs of yore.
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