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Old 11th September 2006, 13:40   #61
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This is the Tata indica/indigo faliure list. Since these parts a are sourced from same company (AC subros, Electroics TVS + Chinese) I am assuming these to be the faliure rates.
While the company manufacturing the vehicles is the same, the components are different. Additionally the vehicles themselves are different and are meant for widely different usage and terrain.

I would therefore not go by your list except for teh A/c and the Starter which have given me trouble initially. I expect to have another list including transfer cases, suspension components and the like. IMHO listing problems of a 4-seater city runabout and predicting similar issues for a 4WD suv is not very realistic. Stuff like the fuel pump will also be different in view of the technology involved (IDI vs common rail).

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Been using a Dicor engine (even if 1st generation) for about 23k kms now and I can confirm that I have had no issues with the engine - quite to the contrary, the engine seems to be doing better with age.
1st Generation?
The engine might be a 1st generation pushrod, but at 1600 bars injection pressure, the common rail fuel pump of Safari Dicor is supposed to fall in the 2nd generation category.
Do correct me if I'm wrong.

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@Steeroid
The starter motor stuff and the AC are the most expensive service parts. Total cost = 16000 Rs.
Rest of it is small change and you dont even feel the pinch as the story is similar in most cars.
Stuff like idler etc., costs 250-300rs and you save much more in fuel costs to bother.
But getting a 8000rs repair bill. then another 8000rs repair bill, then 3000 extra in service due to alternator issues etc., shakes confidence.
Last 15000kms my service bill is 1 rs'km. In case of santro etc, it would have been around 50p/km, so I still save a lot, but these expenses are like jolts.
So the question, is the extended warranty an eyewash like it is for indica/go, since mechanical/gearbox/engine problems never arise, only electrical ones do.

@hell_rider
You can chill.
you will save a lot in fuel, so at aorund 45-65000kms expect to pay 1rs/km repair+service bills. In a santro you would have paid around 50-70p/km as in most cars timing belt/alternator belt etc., changes are scheduled during this time. If you factor in fuel savings, you are actually very well off.
My suggestion : if you drive a lot and can do 50,000kms within the first 18 months, you can be assured of a very smooth ride as lot of these components if faulty go kaput within thie period.
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The starter motor stuff and the AC are the most expensive service parts. Total cost = 16000 Rs.
I'm getting rid of the entire Subros a/c assembly once I know I'm effectively out of warranty. This is something I have decided on long back - will work out an alternative cooling arrangement. Starter issues - from what I hear - is mostly about poor seals on the TVS components which causes water leaks into the motor during the monsson. I'm not sure how that can be fixed, but hopefully Psycho will find me a 200+ bhp engine by the time we're out of warranty

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Hi! all
subros is a joint venture with japanese company( infact it is a joint venture of suzuki, Su in subros stands for suzuki)
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infact it is a joint venture of suzuki, Su in subros stands for suzuki
I thought Subros = Suri Brothers?
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I thought Subros = Suri Brothers?
yes it is suri brothers.... checked their website (http://www.subroslimited.com/aboutus.htm).

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DENSO is the best when it comes to components like these.
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Old 12th September 2006, 20:43   #69
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I wonder how the above will look in the black hard plastic the base variants come with? Or do all the Indigos get beige interiors from now on?
One good thing that it now has is the height adjustable drivers seat.
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I wonder how the above will look in the black hard plastic the base variants come with? Or do all the Indigos get beige interiors from now on?
One good thing that it now has is the height adjustable drivers seat.
Are you sure about this?

I think height adjustable drivers seat has been present in SX and GSX since they have been launched and not added now. Other variants do not have this feature.
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The new price range is 4.58 6.27.

The old prices are (ex-showroom hyderabad) -
GLE-BS III Rs. 4,11,151/-
GLS-BS III Rs. 4,43,923/-
GLX-BS III Rs. 4,73,788/-
GSX Rs. 5,65,117/-

LS-BS III Rs. 4,77,699/-
LX-BS III Rs. 5,16,608/-
SX Rs. 5,99,849/-

What are they charging the extra amount for? Most of the changes are cosmetic. Does it really justify this price revision if the engine is not dicored?
These are the prices for the new Indigo (Ex-showroon Hyderabad) -

GLS-BS III Rs. 4,50,324/-
GLX-BS III Rs. 4,80,967/-
GSX-BS III Rs. 5,58,416/-

LS-BS III Rs. 4,86,481/-
LX-BS III Rs. 5,26,598/-
SX-BS III Rs. 6,03,459/-

A hike of maximum 6k for the new Indigo. That's really very good. I got it wrong earlier. The prices range quoted by the TATA was for Indigo as well as for Marina.
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hey TSK
i had problems with the starter motor on my indica at 25k. but the service station ppl sent that to its service station and got it done for free. was that because of warranty period ...
the thermostat of my marina's a\c went off at 50k but i asked the person to make the a\c direct and i felt no such FE drops . u said it correct these maintenance costs are recovered from low cost of running for tata vehicles . still i will consider a tata vehicle in future.
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Usual move from a mature manufactuer in the runup to the DICOR launch. Give the car a bare amount of rejuvenation, bump up the prices and effect another smaller price hike when the DICOR arrives
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Saw this car today, it looks better than its previous avtaar for sure. Some how I found the owner to be dumb, why you may ask, he had covered the head rest with covers that match the seat covers & it was an Indigo SX which comes with Video screens
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Usual move from a mature manufactuer in the runup to the DICOR launch. Give the car a bare amount of rejuvenation, bump up the prices and effect another smaller price hike when the DICOR arrives
There's another reason - Indigo sales have seen a slow tapering off over the past few months. Nothing drastic, but its a slide for sure.
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