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Old 14th July 2016, 21:09   #16
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The all-new generation of the hatchback sibling is supposed to make it's world debut at the 2016 Frankfurt Motor Show in September,
Paris Motor show is in October 2016, while the Frankfurt motor show is in September 2017.
2017 Swift is expected to debut at the Paris Motor show.
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The vehicles will get much lighter under the new architecture, thereby helping the company further improve fuel efficiency and will get an attractive design then before, which many consider will help Maruti Suzuki to further strengthen its position and share of the market," said one of several people in the know of the development.

Well, Baleno is just 860 kgs. And MS plans to shed some more weight. And they claim to be building crash safe models.
Can't understand how they would achieve both?
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Maruti-Suzuki is currently in the process of developing the all-new Swift DZire and it will be launched in India by end-2017, according to OnCars.

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Little details about the next generation Swift Dzire are available at the moment but it is expected to be based on the upcoming 2017 Maruti Suzuki Swift hatchback. The compact sedan is expected to come with completely revamped exteriors and interiors while the car is also expected to get a new diesel engine.

Maruti Suzuki is currently testing the next generation Swift hatchback across Europe. The car will be unveiled at the 2016 Paris Auto Show while deliveries will start early next year. The hatchback is expected to be launched in India by mid 2017. While the Swift Dzire compact sedan will be based on its hatchback sibling, the car will be India specific and will be exported to a few South Asian markets. The next generation Swift Dzire will be manufactured alongside the Maruti Baleno and the upcoming 2017 Maruti Swift at the company's new plant in Sanand, Gujarat.
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Well, Baleno is just 860 kgs. And MS plans to shed some more weight. And they claim to be building crash safe models.
Can't understand how they would achieve both?
IMHO such comments are factually wrong and far away from truth.

It depends on the type & grade of material used along with the structure design. And I am not talking about any exotic materials like carbon-fiber or magnesium alloy based. The widely used automotive mild steels, with technology & process improvements, have gone up from YS: ~170MPa & UTS: ~310MPa (for cold rolled types) to YS: ~1100MPa & UTS: ~1500MPa (for hot stamped types). Nowadays, UTS of 590MPa is common to see even in budget cars.

Hyundai Creta used the 'exotic' one with UTS of 1500MPa (marketed as UHSS). Maruti / Suzuki declared a similar (if not same UTS range) in Baleno brochure by mentioning "Built using stronger and safer high tensile steel, the body achieves high rigidity by placing the ‘right material at the right place’."

Structure design also plays an extremely important role. Someone may use the best of the available material, yet if designed poorly, the structure can crumble like paper bag.

So, it is very well possible to reduce weight while achieving sound structural rigidity.

Abbreviations : YS - Yield Strength; UTS - Ultimate Tensile Strength

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It remains to be seen what would happen to their DZire Tour model. This barebones taxi special variant alone easily outsells other 4m+ C1 segment sedans (Etios, Sail, Verito etc.)

Would they continue producing the DZire Tour for the fleet market even after the next generation DZire is introduced? Or would they offer the current DZire as a barebones DZire Tour after the next generation model is introduced?

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With GST in sight, Maruti should develop Dzire with a proper boot. There is no point in going for CS, as uniform taxation is expected.
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Would they continue producing the DZire Tour for the fleet market even after the next generation DZire is introduced? Or would they offer the current DZire as a barebones DZire Tour after the next generation model is introduced?
Very unlikely. Taxi market would want a bigger boot space.
Further, why kill a product selling well?
May be they would (add) an exotic name to DZire and sell it along!
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With GST in sight, Maruti should develop Dzire with a proper boot. There is no point in going for CS, as uniform taxation is expected.
I don't think uniform taxation will come all of a sudden to wipe out all the tax soaps for small cars.

Imo, they have to keep Tour and current sub-4m Dzire, and make the new gen Dzire at 4.3 - 4.5m in length with bigger/ Ciaz engines. But one thing: the spy pics of new Swift no way suggest that a sedan is even possible out of it. Such is the sharpness of design.
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All New Ertiga to be launched in the first half of 2018 - Indonesia.

Expect the in-house 1.5l diesel to be one of the variants in this model.

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All New Ertiga to be launched in the first half of 2018 - Indonesia.

Expect the in-house 1.5l diesel to be one of the variants in this model.

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Really well done rendering job isn't it? Kudos to the artist. Won't be surprised if the final India product looks more or less like this.

Not a fan of the new seemingly "Swift family" grille though. Swift & Dzire both will have this now. It would be a surprise if the Ertiga doesn't sport it also. The facial dimensions of the Ertiga and overall placements of lamps etc in the current version make it a no-brainer that the next version will mostly be the new Swift-ish grille.

One of the cars that is really a brilliant package but sees a bit lower volumes in private ownership sales than it deserves. I hope the next version + a new 1.5L diesel will fix this.
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2018 Suzuki Swift makes its appearance in India.

Testing to begin soon, expect an Auto Expo reveal and a launch post that.

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2018 Suzuki Swift makes its appearance in India.

Testing to begin soon, expect an Auto Expo reveal and a launch post that.

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Does that badge read Boosterjet? This is definitely automatic as seen from the snaps. If yes then this could be the boosterjet variant because the Swift VVT and DDiS testing is already going on or maybe an automatic transmission for testing. I don't have much details but am sure that the new Swift has been here since some time now.

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Does that badge read Boosterjet?
Seems like the "HYBRID" badge at the rear.

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Maruti Suzuki's 2018 Swift ready for launch ! Media drive scheduled.

If so, this will be one of the few launches from Maruti Suzuki where a test car was not spotted in India.


A late-February launch looks really very likely at the moment.

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The all-new Maruti Suzuki Swift is just a few weeks away from its launch in India. We have just been invited by the boffins at Maruti Suzuki India Limited (MSIL) to test drive the new model Swift next month

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2018 Maruti Suzuki Swift Official Debut On Jan 18; Launch In February.


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The India-spec Swift will continue to use the 1.2-litre petrol and 1.3-litre diesel engine as the current car, though the diesel engine might be tuned to produce more power. The novelty that the 2017 Swift will offer will be automatic options with both the petrol and the diesel variant.

Suzuki is also evaluating other engine options such as the new 1.5-litre diesel engine that will eventually replace the 1.3-litre Fiat-sourced unit, an SHVS variant and the three-cylinder 1-litre Boosterjet engine we currently get in the Baleno RS
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It will be placed below the Baleno, and will compete directly with the likes of the Ford Figo and the Hyundai Grand i10.
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I have a feeling that the new Swift has all the makings of top selling car in India. The Alto 800 should be worried . Most likely that Swift will continue to be offered in 1.3L DDiS190 and 1.2VVT. Don't see the boosterjet making it to the Swift, which will kill the low selling Baleno RS. Would not be surprised if DDiS breaches 30KMPL mark.
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