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Old 13th January 2017, 23:24   #226
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One odd thing that happened. On a 650km drive, I was entering Bangalore and the "coil" light lit up in orange.
Thats the glow plug indicator. It shouldn't come on while the engine has been running. It should only come on when u try to start a cold engine. Get it checked.
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Default Skoda India Emissions Software Upgrade : Did You Do it? What does it do?

Yesterday i took my 4X4 for a routine annual maintenance appointment. After leaving the car i was called by the service guy and he asked if I wanted the software to be upgraded. I asked what does the upgrade do. He didn't have a clear answer, just said its a routine upgrade. I asked him to go ahead.

When I went to collect my car in the evening, i pushed him to tell me what the upgrade did? He didn't have a clear answer but he did say I wouldn't notice any difference in performance.

That to me, sounds like 'performance will go down, but the change is too less for you to notice'.

I didn't like that. Driving the car back, don't know if it was only psychological but I do feel the car doesn't pull as strongly in the first gear when you release the clutch from stop. Maybe I am thinking to much.

Anyone else had this upgrade? Is it possible to undo? I have written to Skoda India asking what specifically the software does. Haven't heard from them yet.
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Default Re: Skoda India Emissions Software Upgrade : Did You Do it? What does it do?

Would the update/upgrade be similar for Skoda as is for VW?

There's a thread where some people have posted their experience.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post4107786 (Official: Volkswagen recalls 3.24 lakh cars in India over emissions fraud)
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Similar I gues. But am looking for Skoda Owners' experiences.

I got a call from Skoda yesterday and they wanted to know what issues I was following. Then they said they would pass my concerns to the right teams. That's about it.
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Default Re: Official: Volkswagen recalls 3.24 lakh cars in India over emissions fraud

The software has been updated in my 2015 Jetta and frankly I did not feel any difference (loss in power) in my car. As a matter of fact I found the car to be smoother and more fuel efficient. However many in India and abroad; including our own TBHP members are convinced that power has reduced post the software update. Today, I have sent my 2010 Yeti for the software update too.

The thing is that there are a lot of claims of power being reduced post software update, however no one yet has come up with proof (through a 04 wheel dyno test) that this is the case. And since there is a lot of noise about this, I am surprised that VW themselves have not clarified this as yet.
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As a matter of fact I found the car to be smoother and more fuel efficient. However many in India and abroad; including our own TBHP members are convinced that power has reduced post the software update... I am surprised that VW themselves have not clarified this as yet.
VW will maintain a studied silence. Bhpians won't. Allow me to quote a very interesting comment from another thread: (emphasis mine)
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-b...ch-2017-a.html (Team-BHP Meet @ Thekkady : 24th - 26th March, 2017).

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2. Dr.AD + 1 - SX4
3. KiloAlpha + 1 - S-Cross 1.6
4. naveen.raju + (TBD) - Creta (one day drive - 25th March)
5. tilt +1 - neutered Jetta tdi
Need one say anything more?.

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VW will maintain a studied silence. Bhpians won't. Allow me to quote a very interesting comment from another thread: (emphasis mine)
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-b...ch-2017-a.html (Team-BHP Meet @ Thekkady : 24th - 26th March, 2017).



Need one say anything more?.

Let's not get carried away, please! There is no data to suggest a massive drop in power. Period. Even if there is it would be negligible, at least that's what I feel.

I'm due to get the software remap on my 1.6 TDI when they announce a recall for this engine, will surely not mince my words if there is a genuine loss of power.
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I have a Jetta and a Rapid. My only question to VW is, if there is hardly any change to power, why did they cheat in the first place. Something doesn't add up.
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Is the Yeti 2 litre engine update available now?
I m thinking I must get it done asap!

Any Yeti people in Bangalore who have got this done?
Have you noted any difference in the vehicle's behaviour?

Would be obliged for inputs if any!
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VW will maintain a studied silence. Bhpians won't. Allow me to quote a very interesting comment from another thread: (emphasis mine)
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-b...ch-2017-a.html (Team-BHP Meet @ Thekkady : 24th - 26th March, 2017).

Need one say anything more?.
More of an emotional statement than factual really.

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Let's not get carried away, please! There is no data to suggest a massive drop in power. Period. Even if there is it would be negligible, at least that's what I feel.

I'm due to get the software remap on my 1.6 TDI when they announce a recall for this engine, will surely not mince my words if there is a genuine loss of power.
I agree here.

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I have a Jetta and a Rapid. My only question to VW is, if there is hardly any change to power, why did they cheat in the first place. Something doesn't add up.
So the cheat software was more for emissions and not power. The cheat software would activate only once the car was on test mode. So when the car is on test mode, the drop in power (if any) should have been recorded too? So either it was not recorded or there was no drop in power.

Now, we all know that the belief is that a power oriented car lacks fuel efficiency and vice versa. Post software update, I have noticed that fuel efficiency has increased but by only a kilometer at the most. So even if the power has been compromised; how much can it be to be equal to a kilometer more efficient in terms of fuel.

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Is the Yeti 2 litre engine update available now?
I m thinking I must get it done asap!

Any Yeti people in Bangalore who have got this done?
Have you noted any difference in the vehicle's behaviour?

Would be obliged for inputs if any!
I have got the software updated in my Yeti two days ago but haven't driven her yet to comment on the difference in the vehicle's behavior. Frankly I do not expect any change but will update soon.
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Old 14th March 2017, 16:22   #236
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The VW Group believes the dark days of Dieselgate are behind it, profits were € 7.1billion .

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Source- VW Global
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Let's not get carried away, please! There is no data to suggest a massive drop in power. Period. Even if there is it would be negligible, at least that's what I feel.
There is some data available now. Details at http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...re-update.html (Dyno tested at last! VW's Dieselgate software update)
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I''m due to get the software remap on my 1.6 TDI when they announce a recall for this engine, will surely not mince my words if there is a genuine loss of power.
Have you gone for the software update? Did you notice any perceivable difference in power output? Please share your personal experience.
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Dieselgate: Only 30% of recalled vehicles rectified in India

The Volkswagen Automotive Group (VAG) has announced that it has been able to mend only 30% of the 3.4 lakh cars that were recalled under the infamous dieselgate emissions scandal in India. The automaker had announced the said recall over a year ago but has still not been able to rectify a significant share of the affected models.

The automaker claims that the said delay in the recall process is a result of multiple brands, models and engine options being listed for the recall. This makes it difficult for the automaker to make the required engine updates in a seamless manner. These updates are being developed at the company's headquarters in Germany. Once the updates have been developed, the company is required to get approvals from the ARAI, before they are rolled out to customers. This process is slightly time consuming, which is causing the said delay in rectification.

Source: ET Auto
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Here is another NYT article that very nicely stitches together the timeline of events leading upto the eventual confession by VW. Although this story has been covered extensively here, there are some new findings in the NYT article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/06/b...trickery.html?
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Few of my colleagues have got the VW Dieselgate upgrade done and I have the following observations (while driving their car or having a drive with them)

1. The initial power has dropped significantly, though the Peak Power and Torque may remain the same, but the power band has shortened to at higher RPMs
2. There is a HEAVY black smoke during the start, be it Cold Start or Starting after 1-2 Hrs of Parking
3. The deceleration is Heavy now, even in 5th and 6th Gears. We feel as if someone is applying breaks when we take foot off the accelerator
4. The biggest problem of all is that the EGRs are failing and 3 of my colleagues had this issue and they are moving VW to re-imburse the cost. The mechanic says that the EGR fails because the valves now needs to handle almost twice the amount of exhaust gas than before and it's failing for heavy drivers post the upgrade

So, considering all this, the VW in Germany is now giving an option to the owners to not to upgrade, but we have to give it in writing that we are opting out of this upgrade and to keep VW safe in legal issue in future
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