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Old 7th February 2017, 11:03   #286
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For lesser variants though (SV and V), what exactly is the upgrade? The 10mm GC increase is useful though.
Strongly hoping the biggest upgrade would be the most criticized bit for the last version(i.e. build quality). City always had an aspirational value in India and hope HONDA gets it back to that spot this time around. They already have the wonderful petrol engine, and with market dynamics shifting towards petrol healthy sales can be expected from petrol model.

And yeah please price it well HONDA. Atleast introductory pricing should be realistic
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As a three year user of 2014 Honda city i would say the biggest gripe i have with the car is the low speed ride quality over broken patches. The car just transmits everything to your bum, for less than perfect tarmac. I feel none of the reviews talk about this facet of the car, which becomes apparent only once you start using it on a day to day to basis. I hope Honda has changed the spring ratings for the update. If yes i would be first in line to get them replaced on my city.

All said and done it is the 1.5 ivtech that shines in this car. And with the slick shifting manual it becomes a joy to use. With some practice you can manage sub 10 sec 0-100 kmph runs. ( I don't promote rash driving. I do these acceleration runs only when it is safe for me/others and legal ). In a recent test done by autocar Narian Karthikeyan got the best lap times from City this side of 20 Lakhs. Beating the likes of Abarth Punto and Polo TSI. Even with this potent performance potential it gives you excellent fuel efficiency and drive ability. Hats of to the Japanese nerds who designed this engine.
Stiffer suspension setup would always result in better handling and stability but with a tradeoff in ride quality. I noticed the same thing coming from my old Baleno to the City. One thing which seems different is the torque steer during strong acceleration. Though the old Baleno had great acceleration too, the torque steer seemed to be much less. It kept a straight line while accelerating while in the City I feel the need to hold the steering to prevent the torque steer. I do plenty of outright acceleration runs so I've grown accustomed to this though it's not ideal.
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Look at the condition of the stock in the background. The soot/dust layer must be acting as a natural protection from Sun.

On a different note, considering the ease in changing a flat tyre, the new alloys seem a bit unfriendly, grip wise. I have this habit of gripping the alloys, rather than touching the rubber, while pulling the tyre out, as well as placing it back on 4 nuts. The 4 spoke design was the easiest to grip.
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How strong is the body of the new Honda?
From what I understand, the 2013+ models compromised on the body (thickness and strength) to save space and weight. It kind of makes the airbags redundant and worse.
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How strong is the body of the new Honda?
From what I understand, the 2013+ models compromised on the body (thickness and strength) to save space and weight. It kind of makes the airbags redundant and worse.
That would be pure speculation till the Indian cars are actually tested!
We can't really deduct how well built a car is by just touching or feeling it or even comparing it to an older version!
It depends on how well the whole structure responds during a crash.

And bad shell or not, airbags can only make things better!

I'm happy to finally see a honda that is well kitted and loaded to the brim even in terms of safety! Competition is wonderful!
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How strong is the body of the new Honda?
From what I understand, the 2013+ models compromised on the body (thickness and strength) to save space and weight. It kind of makes the airbags redundant and worse.
How did you measure the thickness and strength of the body ? Its not the parts that you feel that add strength and safety. Its the structure beneath those parts. I am sorry but your understanding is not right.
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How strong is the body of the new Honda?
From what I understand, the 2013+ models compromised ...
To be precise, the 2013+ model City body structure is 24% stronger/stiffer due to the use of lighter but stronger steel/alloy compared to the previous model (2012 and before)
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Stiffer suspension setup would always result in better handling and stability but with a tradeoff in ride quality. I noticed the same thing coming from my old Baleno to the City. One thing which seems different is the torque steer during strong acceleration. Though the old Baleno had great acceleration too, the torque steer seemed to be much less. It kept a straight line while accelerating while in the City I feel the need to hold the steering to prevent the torque steer. I do plenty of outright acceleration runs so I've grown accustomed to this though it's not ideal.
I have also experienced the torque steer you are talking about. Not a big deal though. I so wish the city had the suspension like Fiat Linea ( especially the pre 2012 ). It seems to have everything great handling and at the same time great ride quality.
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Have they made any changes to the manual gear stick? The old one looked too thin for a premium sedan.

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I have also experienced the torque steer you are talking about. Not a big deal though. I so wish the city had the suspension like Fiat Linea ( especially the pre 2012 ). It seems to have everything great handling and at the same time great ride quality.
I got the coil spring buffers fitted on all 4 shock abs on my 2010 Honda City with amazing results. The car stopped scrapping each and every speed breaker in town and the ride was satisfactorily stiffer and better in my potholed city. Sitting in the rear bench gave me the feeling of sitting in a German Car.
I bought Kashyap Branded ones, but had a tough time getting those fitted by myself. Had to go to a mechanic, who too found it difficult and charged me 1500 Rs. I would recommend, using the Rogerabs or any other brand's nominated dealer shop and their fitting person, incase someone want's to get them fitted.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ension-27.html (Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspension?)

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I got the coil spring buffers fitted on all 4 shock abs on my 2010 Honda City with amazing results. The car stopped scrapping each and every speed breaker in town and the ride was satisfactorily stiffer and better in my potholed city. Sitting in the rear bench gave me the feeling of sitting in a German Car.
I bought Kashyap Branded ones, but had a tough time getting those fitted by myself. Had to go to a mechanic, who too found it difficult and charged me 1500 Rs. I would recommend, using the Rogerabs or any other brand's nominated dealer shop and their fitting person, incase someone want's to get them fitted.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ension-27.html (Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspension?)

I thought about these. But they seem to reduce bounciness, increase ground clearance and make the suspension stiffer. The 2014 City has none of these problems. Thew 2014 is not bouncy and rides rather flat especially on highway speeds. It clears most speed breakers, hence ground clearance is not a problem either. The main issue is 2014 city has very stiff suspension especially at low speeds. So when ambling around in city over potholed/rutted roads makes life very uncomfortable for the passengers. I think these coil spring buffers will just make the suspension even harder exacerbating the problem.
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I think the stiffer suspension is producing more rattles in the City than Honda intended to introduce
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Soft touch dashboard, better infotainment system, LED lights, six airbags are all very very welcome addition indeed.
New City 2017 definitely looks more masculine with the new grille. Hope Honda's cash registers start ringing again. Honda definitely had good products but with bad pricing, hope they do not make the mistake again this time.

I am particularly interested in the new infotainment system. I would be more than happy, if I can switch my current Jazz Infotainment system with the 2017 City's, is there a possibility?
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