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Old 23rd October 2016, 01:23   #31
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Most unlikely, largely because this engine's emissions performance is not good enough, AFAIK (new emissions rules coming up in bothe India, and europe, the only large diesel-in-small-pv markets.)

imo, if this deal involves engine sharing in India (doubtful), it is likelier that Toyota/Daihatsu too will adopt the 1.3 mjd2 come 2020 or so when the new emissions regulations kick-in, although THAT date too is uncertain.

Toyota have been extremely vocal about the unviability of the new investments entailed in trying to upgrade their (imo already less than competitive) small (and bigger) diesel engines for the new 2020 or so regulations in India. In europe, Toyota is very much moving full-on towards hybrids, even on their smallest models there, just as soon as the eu rules are settled.
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Toyota have been extremely vocal about the unviability of the new investments entailed in trying to upgrade their (imo already less than competitive) small (and bigger) diesel engines for the new 2020 or so regulations in India. In europe, Toyota is very much moving full-on towards hybrids, even on their smallest models there, just as soon as the eu rules are settled.
Spot on.
Petrol hybrids will be the tech of coming future. Definitely a small car with Petrol-Hybrid powertrain delivering 25-28kmpl will be more justified over Diesel powered variant, if priced similarly i.e ₹1-1.5 lacs higher over basic petrol powered corresponding variant, reason being more refined operation, lower maintenance & longer product life. Sharing technologies or parts or powertrain will give both these companies economies of scale to price them competitively.
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