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Old 1st October 2016, 21:51   #706
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Wheelbase is the same 2850mm IIRC.

The Aria had a ground clearance of 205mm. But I guess this must be an all new suspension. Got to find out what is a "Coil Spring Type, 5-Link Rigid Axle" suspension.

1700 - 2700RPM is not a very broad power band.
1500 - 2800RPM would've been an appreciably wide power band.

The 6-Speed Automatic is a good addition. Is it the one that Chevy provides ?

Brakes : It says 'Disc', could they be ventilated now or solid (like the Aria had, before) ?

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...Seriously, are we thinking Hexa is a BR-V competitot? We are talking about a 4.7m long 7 seater with a 2.2L engine and 6 speed gearbox and having a 4X4 and auto box option. Even for the 1.9 L option, an ex-showroom price in the range of 10-12L looks highly improbable...
Then why bother creating anything new ? The Aria is not yet discontinued, it's still selling. At prices competing the BR-V.

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The projected prices in this thread seem to be way too low for a car of this size and features. Hexa will definitely be much more expensive than the Safari and will be in the range of or slightly more than the XUV too. It will not be as expensive as the Innova Crysta though. Some prices being discussed here in this thread are lower than Creta and even S-Cross which I think will be impossible for Tata to pull off.

Seriously, are we thinking Hexa is a BR-V competitot? We are talking about a 4.7m long 7 seater with a 2.2L engine and 6 speed gearbox and having a 4X4 and auto box option. Even for the 1.9 L option, an ex-showroom price in the range of 10-12L looks highly improbable.
A starting price of 11-12L ex showroom is not improbable because the Aria had been selling at starting 9.99L

Secondly, it is an open secret that vehicles like the BRV, Creta and Crysta are grossly overpriced. There is absolutely no justification for their atrocious pricing except that they can get away with it. They follow the 'perceived maximum the customer will be willing to pay' pricing model. If the vehicle is priced on the basic cost+ formula, you will get very different numbers.

Also, I am surprised the official GC is 200mm. They could have artificially lowered it to claim excise benefits.

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Also, I am surprised the official GC is 200mm. They could have artificially lowered it to claim excise benefits.
Really? Already each move of Tata is being scrutinized under microscope and they are being taken apart. For what? For bringing a massively improved product. Now you want them to carry one more cross and then all can flame them? Let them follow the ethical path.
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More from Twitter, the first impressions are positive.

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Drove Tata Hexa power pack and comfortable vehicle on rough track..excellent vehicle with advanced feature. Kudos to Tata team.@TataMotors
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Then why bother creating anything new ? The Aria is not yet discontinued, it's still selling. At prices competing the BR-V.
Is price band everything??? If they price it lower, they are tagged to a low end car. If high, how on earth can TM quote a premium, which is "Indian"?? Also, 19" alloys??? Give me a break sir.

Going by the specs as seen in the last post, the dimensions too have got butchy. It is tad taller, wider & longer.

L-W-H

Safari - 4655-1855-1922
aria - 4780-1895-1780
Hexa - 4788-1903-1791

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Is price band everything?
It is the most significant part.
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If they price it lower, they are tagged to a low end car. If high, how on earth can TM quote a premium, which is "Indian"?? Also, 19" alloys??? Give me a break sir.
You've quoted in inverted commas, is there any such text written by me ?
You're falsely accusing me of discriminating based on nationality! Take that back, I'm serious. Team-BHP isn't a place for your jingoistic fanboyism.

19" rubber tyres cost a massive bit. Go and search for such tyres, leave alone their price. Each rubber tyre would cost ~20k, a set of 5 would cost 1lac.

Some of us do something called "research" before posting here. Try it.

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Going by the specs as seen in the last post, the dimensions too have got butchy. It is tad taller, wider & longer.

L-W-H

Safari - 4655-1855-1922
aria - 4780-1895-1780
Hexa - 4788-1903-1791
Again, you're wrong. I compared based on my recollection of Aria's wheelbase, not dimensions.

Tata Aria had a wheelbase of 2850mm, so does Hexa. I DID NOT attach any connotation about it.

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The car looks good, the spec sheet also looks good.

The Tiago has proved that people are willing to look past Tata's chequered history and appreciate a good product for what it is.

If the Hexa carries forward the Safari's reputation for comfort and delights prospective buyers with the attention to detail as seen in the Tiago, this sure has "success" all written over it.

As the owner of an Innova (still going strong) and a Crysta (wow! inside, but aw! ouch! price-tag), I hope that Tata finds a comfortable price band comparable to the XUV 500 for the Hexa. That would make a very interesting option for those Scorpio and 1st generation Innova owners looking to upgrade but find the Crysta price list too high for what is essentially a u-t-i-l-i-t-y vehicle.

Now only if they would get the dealer attitude right.

Last time when I called Concorde to ask about Tiago and what the discounts were, the reply I got was "...we are Tata company dealership..."
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It is the most significant part.

You've quoted in inverted commas, is there any such text written by me ?
You're falsely accusing me of discriminating based on nationality! Take that back, I'm serious. Team-BHP isn't a place for your jingoistic fanboyism.

19" rubber tyres cost a massive bit. Go and search for such tyres, leave alone their price. Each rubber tyre would cost ~20k, a set of 5 would cost 1lac.

Some of us do something called "research" before posting here. Try it.


Again, you're wrong. I compared based on my recollection of Aria's wheelbase, not dimensions.

Tata Aria had a wheelbase of 2850mm, so does Hexa. I DID NOT attach any connotation about it.
1. Was Aria in any corner under powered than the Innova in terms of power/ feature?? Got beaten by the desi tag where the masses could not digest the price quoted
2. It is no brainer to see the bashing TM receives compared to other manufacturers, inspite of all the niggles & premium in the fore front.
3. It isn't a crime to add a 19" alloys. Maintenance does come at a price. I am pretty sure that Hexa is not going to be a poor man's car
4. The LWH specs were picked up straight from the spec sheets & weren't for you. chill dude.
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Looks like they had some fun during the 4*4 capabilities test run.
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Pics courtesy Mudit Asthana (on Facebook), who is a Safari owner.

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Dis thing...as close as it gets to perfection and top notch quality...well done tata motors, giant leap...
Tata HEXA is awaited whole heartedly...
it ws a landrover in all senses....ages ahead of cars in d segment...equals d new endavour in size and wht beauty in detailing...must wait
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Surprised to see so much acrimony over a not yet released model,
I think we should all step back and wait for the actual launch and test drives before expressing strong positive or negative views.

I, for one, am hoping that it is a top notch vehicle, reasonably priced. It will give some much needed competition in the segment and the customer would be the winner.
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The Aria was an accomplished MPV and the much-improved Hexa might be even better. We can safely assume so.

I'm not worried about the product. I'm worried about the price. Tata has a knack of getting carried away and pricing their cars too optimistically.

The only way the market is going to accept the Hexa is if Tata 'surprises' us with a great price. Among premium cars, we've seen Ford giving the Endeavour a fantastic price, ditto with the Skoda Superb and also the Isuzu V-Cross. Except for the Creta (backed by a powerful brand and a well-rounded product), there's no opportunity for overpriced cars in the 15 - 20 lakh segment.

Remember how Mahindra had 'wowed' us with the XUV500's original launch price? Tata should be doing the same. It should offer a lot and still be undeniably value-for-money.

If a product clicks in this segment, the potential to make money is huge due to the fat profit margins. Sincerely hope Tata gets it right.
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Surprised to see so much acrimony over a not yet released model,
I think we should all step back and wait for the actual launch and test drives before expressing strong positive or negative views.

I, for one, am hoping that it is a top notch vehicle, reasonably priced. It will give some much needed competition in the segment and the customer would be the winner.
+1

This segment certainly needs a breath of fresh air. With the Innova now touching 25L, there is a real need for a proper 7 seat family car in the 10-20L range that is genuinely capable, no-nonsense and well priced.

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The XUV is the go-to car for the upper cadre of IT Employees, CEO's of firms etc. XUV has some competition now. If priced right, then Hexa can eat some sales from the XUV, as the interior appears to be more spacious and luxurious compared to XUV.
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