Go Back   Team-BHP > Indian Cars > The Indian Car Scene

The Indian Car Scene Swifts, Vtecs, Mahindras, Nanos and everything else on the Indian Car Scene.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 26th September 2006, 23:14   #1 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
rahul_intlad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,563
Default Team-bhp not talking about new manufacturer - Naza

Yes agreed that the Naza company is nothing to talk about but just wanted members at team -bhp to know that a new manufacturer is coming to town[Tamil nadu].It is a sister concern of Kia-hyundai motors I believe.

Here are some details:

Naza Automotive Manufacturing Sdn Bhd has plans to set up an assembly plant in southern India, possibly in Chennai. Chennei is home to a number of automotive plants like Hyundai, Ford, Mitsubishi, BMW, Mahindra and Apollo Tyres, and is base for 30% of India’s auto components industry and 20% of the Indian vehicle industry.
Naza plans to go international with it’s Naza Sutera and Naza 206 Bestari models, and India is one of it’s target markets. The Indian passanger car market is big - 1.3 million new car registrations in 2005 alone, and the middle class group of Indians who can afford to buy cars is growing. As import duties for cars in India is high, CKD assembly in India itself would be Naza’s best option to be competitive

Source:
Naza website.

Last edited by rahul_intlad : 26th September 2006 at 23:18.
rahul_intlad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th September 2006, 23:16   #2 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
rahul_intlad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,563
Default

The naza sutera:




The naza bestari:
rahul_intlad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th September 2006, 23:22   #3 (permalink)
Team-BHP Support
 
Mpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago/B'lore
Posts: 5,328
Default

I had heard of the Sutera. Its supposed to be a Chinese design.

Bestari is a license built 206 and is therefore unlikely candidate for India.
__________________
The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.

Last edited by Mpower : 26th September 2006 at 23:56.
Mpower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th September 2006, 23:26   #4 (permalink)
Team-BHP Support
 
theMAG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bengalooru
Posts: 4,583
Default

The model in hte 1st pic looks like a combo of the Hyundai Getz and the Suzuki SX4 - altho the overall effect seems to be good.The 2nd pic looks like an almost 100% facsimile of a Peugeot.

Its amazing how little is known even in todays' world - Lada is probably more famous than "Naza"
__________________
Become who you are.
theMAG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th September 2006, 23:38   #5 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: N.A
Posts: 6,029
Default

Dont know about this Naza thing, but the first car was offered for sale here in Dubai under some Chinese name Jialing or some stuff like that - same company that makes copies of the old Toyota Hiace van. The 2nd is obviously the Peugeot 206.

The suffix SDN BHD (Senderan Berhad) seemed to indicate its a malaysian company and sure enough they are franchisees for Kia in Malaysia. They are not a 'sister concern' because it seems Kia is likely to set up operations in India too. Bestari = Smart (?) and Sutera = Silk in Bahasa.

Seeing that they are not exactly popular in their home country (Malaysia) as a manufacturer though they are reasonably successful as traders, I cant see how they can be successful here.
__________________
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
- J Krishnamurti

Last edited by Steeroid : 26th September 2006 at 23:55.
Steeroid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 12:43   #6 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
maxbhp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: C C K
Posts: 1,187
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mpower
I had heard of the Sutera. Its supposed to be a Chinese design.

Bestari is a license built 206 and is therefore unlikely candidate for India.
If they can price Bestari competetively it will find takers, infact its going to be a real hot hatch if given the right engine options like 1.6 petrol .... Design of Sutera looks un appealing , something like Santro but if they market it well......its gong to be another Hyundai-ish story
__________________
People drive to live ,I live to drive.
-maxbhp

Last edited by maxbhp : 27th September 2006 at 12:59.
maxbhp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 13:37   #7 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: N.A
Posts: 6,029
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by maxbhp
If they can price Bestari competetively it will find takers, infact its going to be a real hot hatch if given the right engine options like 1.6 petrol ....
Since its based on the 206, you might want to read this:

www.dontbuypeugeot.com
__________________
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
- J Krishnamurti
Steeroid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 13:41   #8 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
esteem_lover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Madras
Posts: 6,277
Default

Well, all the best. more the merrier, i would say. the bestari is cute. sutera is not bad either, considering we love santro. any unknown commodity has to be aggresively priced to attaract the mass' attention. if they do that, no saying what will happen. good luck NAZA.
__________________
Let us learn from the past to profit by the present, and from the present to live better in the future.- William Wordsworth
esteem_lover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 18:46   #9 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Poseidon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: On the briny
Posts: 72
Default

Bestari has contemporary looks. Notwithstanding this, there too many unknowns here. After sales service and resale will be a bother, for one.
Other than being another addition from Detroit-of-India Chennai, there is very little to cheer about, right now.
I personally would prefer cheering for that other new car Chennai, the Verna!
Poseidon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 19:38   #10 (permalink)
Distinguished - BHPian
 
iraghava's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bhaiyyaland
Posts: 7,693
Default

I would be highly suspect of a manufacturer like Naza. Since I assume they outsource/assemble both cars they would have minimal R&D and that usually spells trouble. Building a brand from scratch is also not easy and certainly calls for some brave moves & deep pockets, especially for a manufacturer like Naza which is a small player even in its home market.

I would be interested in seeing how their products fare in the Indian market but I won't be holding my breath for them.
__________________
Reminds me of my safari in Africa.Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water.
iraghava is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 19:49   #11 (permalink)
BHPian
 
yeis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 234
Default

Me too had heard of Sutera but never knew there is a brand called Naza!
yeis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 20:04   #12 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: N.A
Posts: 6,029
Default

FINALLY tracked down the original chinese car and its the HF (Ha Fei) Lobo.

And surprise, surprise - its designed by Pininfarina.

See this link:

http://archive.cardesignnews.com/new...11pinin-hafei/

And along the way I also came across a long list of cars made in China today, which works out to 272 models. See Attachment.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf China Cars.pdf (11.6 KB, 763 views)
__________________
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
- J Krishnamurti

Last edited by Steeroid : 27th September 2006 at 20:07.
Steeroid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 20:14   #13 (permalink)
Team-BHP Support
 
Mpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago/B'lore
Posts: 5,328
Default

Thanks for the list. China is now world's #2 car market after the USA. They have really gone places in no time.
__________________
The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.
Mpower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 20:25   #14 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
rahul_intlad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,563
Default

Thanks for the list.Did not know so many cars come out from chinese assembly lines.
rahul_intlad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2006, 20:43   #15 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
spadival's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,741
Default

I would be the last person to buy a Malaysian product.. considering the way they treat Indians over there.
Let them first learn to treat Indians with respect.
spadival is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Suggestions for Team-BHP from Team-BHPians GTO Shifting gears 2565 24th November 2009 07:25
Team-BHP stands for the TRUTH. But Skoda wants to “instigate” Team-BHP and its users! GTO The Indian Car Scene 2211 3rd November 2009 17:53
Team-BHP Manufacturer of the Year 2008 khanak The Indian Car Scene 65 23rd January 2008 22:48
Team-Bhp, gaming team??? Shan2nu Shifting gears 12 10th October 2006 19:34
Team-BHP Manufacturer of the Year Revvmaster The Indian Car Scene 54 31st May 2005 05:56


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 07:50.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Team-BHP.com

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608