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Old 13th October 2008, 14:54   #451
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Have to agree that the FE ratings seem exaggerated ; they seem to be shooting past even Fiat's official ratings : italiaspeed.com: FIAT LINEA


They're keeping mum on the 1.4 T-jet FE ratings, since quite obviously it wont be anything to brag about.

I doubt all those features will be offered either.. if it is, I'm not sure how they'd manage to keep costs low.
4.0 l / 100 Km is 25 Kmpl, not 20Kmpl.
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after all these months of waiting madly...still we get is pure speculation or not-so-sure information on Linea
.Only Fiat Linea can stretch ppl's hopes for so long that itself tells us how good a car Linea is.
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Exclamation SRRY- Slight Mistake- RE: Fiat Linea - Watchout its here!

Hey amit sorry- G3HC or ANHC dosent have 6 airbags and yes its true Lineas mileage is more as the ANHC has more power (118 PS). Hey maybe Honda's service maybe bad but it is slightly better than Fiat. Got any news about launch!
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Or how poor Fiat's launching capability and market vision is. People only wait for so long before they settle on another model. Fiat should understand that they are not the only people making cars in this world. For some elusive reason, they keep things under wraps till the last possible moment and then expect a miracle in sales.
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The optimist that I am, I think all that autocarcr has said is possibly true.

EXCEPT :@autocarcr, is there a mix-up here ?
hey thanks but its all real except yes- there was a mixup but not exactly one but Honda's service is slightly better than Fiat and of course you do get the problem solved although the costs are high. My friend had to shell out Rs. 18000 for only mediocre cosmetic problem of his new honda city ZX 10th anniversary. OH god why wont fiat hurry with the linea? And they will somehow screw it up with the issue of high price or something like that!
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Where did you get these details about the Linea from? Did the dealer tell you all this? Auto Headlights (Darkness sensor), Parking and rain sensors, 6 Airbags(!!), ESP(!!). That's one loaded car. If all this is true then Fiat isn't going to push the envelope but blast it ahead in the C segment. Where did you get the mileage for both Linea and G3HC from? I don't think the Linea petrol will give 17kmpl in city and I don't think it can be more fuel efficient then the G3HC. And the top end variant with all of this at 9.1 lacs, 34K less then G3HC?! By the way, the G3HC doesn't come with 6 airbags, EBD and ESP. Your comparo shows these as avaliable on the HC.

As for the 'superb service' from Honda, have you gone through some of the Honda service threads out here? No denying that Honda service is better then Fiat, but can it be classified as 'Superb'?
Yes amit, this is all true!! check out - Fiat Linea - one of the dealers here confirmed that the same features will hit Indian roads. and yes it is expected to be in that range although word is round (dealer told me) AND IT IS REAL the fully loaded Fiat Linea Emotion with T-Jet 16V engine will cost 1080000 Rs although a subsidy should be expected bringing the cost to around 8.7 lac ex showroom! This will contain:-

EXTERIOR

- 16V T-Jet 120 BHP petrol engine with avg fuel consumption 16.7kmpl. Max Speed: 200 kmph, 206nm @ 5500rpm
- 17 " Alloy wheels, chrome accents, spoiler (if optioned)
- Body coloured mud gaurd and handle
- FM Antenna
- Halogen headlights
- Fog Lights

INTERIOR & SAFETY

- Seat Belts back and front
- Airbags (6- two curtain, two front and two roof)
- EBD (Electronic Brake Force Distribution)
- EPS (Electronic Power Steering with stabiliser)
- HBA (Hill side brake (automatic))
- Isofix system with lock (immobiliser)
- ABS (Assisted Braking System)
- Disc Brakes
- Cruise Control
- Suspension (Mc Pherson) with dynamic handling
- Cup Holders (2 front, 2 back)
- Rear seat news paper holder
- Centre lighting and front lighting
- Parking Sensor
- Darkness Sensor (Auto Headlamps)
- Rain Sensor (Adjusts speed of wiper with velocity of rain)
- Rear Defogger
- Blue and Me Windows System (Can call and read messages and play music with voice commands)
- Steering Mounted Controls
- Auto Airconditioning (Climate Control)
- Available in 6 colours
- Automatic transmission with Intelligent shift system

OTHER FEATURES AND ACCESORIES

- Luggage net sets
- Car Cleaner
- Style pack
- Safety pack
- Roof sets
- upholstery choice

Other Engine options: 120PS Multijet diesel, 70Ps/90PS Petrol

Total Prce On road (approx estd.)
A) Active Rs 780000 on road B) Dynamic Rs 870000 on road c) Emotion Rs 930000 on road d) Upend Emotion Rs 1080000 on road

RELEASING (not as i said before)
Nov 15th to Dec 15th (Definitely before Christmas and before Nano (hehe)) Be Optimistic! If someone has contacts ask Fiat and post some sure news here!

P.S. Whatever I havve written might sound far fetched but it is true to the largest extent.

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All I can say is may you be 100% right
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wow all of that and at that price if you are right fiat are going to kill honda
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wow all of that and at that price if you are right fiat are going to kill honda
That may not be quite the case. Feature to feature if you compare Fiat's models they are far superior to anything that the competition has. But Fiat has unfortunately failed in India because of poor after sales support. Once they sell you a car they sort of disown you. Fiat owners are treated like step children by Tata Motors dealers. In virtually every city in India the Fiat dealer is perhaps the most shady guy in town. This is no way to establish a brand in India.
Fiat is a classic example of how it's not enough to have a great product for a brand to be successful.
Let's just hope things improve with the latest model.
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Exclamation Hey Heres A Scoop!

Hey just so that you all dont lose faith in Fiat and its impending Linea Launch here are some pictures on the right hand Active version of the soon to be launched Linea (courtesy: TheHorse)

The Fiat Linea-Is this the saloon that's coming to India?-image005.gif

The Fiat Linea-Is this the saloon that's coming to India?-image006.gif

The Fiat Linea-Is this the saloon that's coming to India?-image004.gif

Keep holding on for a month more!
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i hope whatever u say comes true dude
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In Bangalore, A.S.S is not a problem. I'm ready to book right away for the 120bhp MJD. Come on fiat. Make a soft launch so that we can all know the specs. I also hope that Petes will have a tuning box for the 1.6L MJD. As far as I know, Petes does not sell tuning boxes for engines that are not available in European market and 1.6 MJD is not available in Europe. But then 120bhp MJD!! I can live with that. Dream...... give us the 6 gears dualogic gear box as well
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Guys I'm not sure about 120bhp Multijet, All I can confirm is 1.3L 90bhp Multijet with VGT (I saw that engine personally yesterday in one of test mules) believe me, it was very silent and I could not feel any diesel vibrations on the car bonnet (may be engine was hot already as a result of test run). But it was definitely better than swift DDiS.
I wish I could get test drive of that car. BTW it was Linea emotion and all I could figure out from closed windows was
- steering mounted audio controls
- quality material (atleast to my eyes it looked very good quality)
- leather seats
- atleast twin airbags (not sure about 6 airbags)
- regular aircon ( no automatic climate control..might be with emotion + variant)
- HUGE legspace ( both front and rear)
- handrest for driver seat
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Last week , i met a person working for Tata Motors looking after Fiat dealerships. Allthough, he is not a Car enthu (Say, he does not know whats a Blue & Me) He candidly said that a soft launch would be made in mid Dec and cars would be available in Showrooms only in 2009. He mentioned that it would be terrific Value for Money car ( even compared to Tata cars ) and prices starts from 7 lacs.
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- 16V T-Jet 120 BHP petrol engine with avg fuel consumption 16.7kmpl. Max Speed: 200 kmph, 206nm @ 5500rpm
A 120 BHP Fiat Petrol engine giving 16.7 kmpl average is a fantasy. if it gives even half of what is claimed I think FIAT has achieved great milestone on FE.
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