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Old 28th March 2017, 15:24   #421
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Honda WR-V is likely to get 1.5 litre petrol engine. And CVT transmission. The article says Honda is "working" on this - so I guess this might take some time.

120 BHP on a 1.1 tonne car equals power to weight ratio of 110. It should fly! (not off the showroom floor I mean, but definitely off the traffic signal)
This was the sweetest post on this entire thread which refreshed me from my sleepy condition in office and helped me to rejuvenate

If 1.5 CVT, most probably the 'ZX' variant of WR-V is launched in India in future, we might have to get ready with 1.5 million rupees to grab one.
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Honda WR-V is likely to get 1.5 litre petrol engine. And CVT transmission. The article says Honda is "working" on this - so I guess this might take some time.
When they have the engine ready, why was this not available at the time of launch? The impact would have been completely different! Why didn't they give the WR-V - an important car - their best shot?

Honda is so S-L-O-W. It's no wonder that they're losing market-share, despite a deluge of launches (and flops). Everything from Honda is a half-hearted effort these days.
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When they have the engine ready, why was this not available at the time of launch? The impact would have been completely different! Why didn't they give the WR-V - an important car - their best shot?

Honda is so S-L-O-W. It's no wonder that they're losing market-share, despite a deluge of launches (and flops). Everything from Honda is a half-hearted effort these days.
It seems to me that Honda dropped the 1.5 ltr engine because of the stupid 4 meter rule & are now planning to bring the same because of GST which comes to effect on July 1 . I have to agree with you regarding the half hearted effort , they seem to think that whatever they launch will go down well with the Indian customer .

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I have to agree with you regarding the half hearted effort , they seem to think that whatever they launch will go down well with the Indian customer .
I was so excited about this car and that is the exact reason I plan to not go for this car. I would either go for the Jazz itself or the Ecosport in the C-SUV range!
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The usual answer given by SE about better features is that, the price will go up. But, Why can't they give it as an option. Who are they to judge whether a Customer can afford or not.

Forget about the 1.5 litre Engine, When I enquired, why Magic Seats are not offered in a Utility Vehicle as a WRV, the answer was obvious that the price will go up by approx. 30-40K. The SE didn't have an answer when I said, I don't mind paying 30-40K extra for Magic Seats.

I may use the Sunroof once in a year, but Magic seats come in handy on day to day basis. Rather Honda wants all WRV owners to shift to Hill stations. Imagine opening the Sunroof after parking the Car in Bangalore. Within 2-3 hours of parking, the Car will be covered with dust.

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When they have the engine ready, why was this not available at the time of launch? The impact would have been completely different! Why didn't they give the WR-V - an important car - their best shot?

Honda is so S-L-O-W. It's no wonder that they're losing market-share, despite a deluge of launches (and flops). Everything from Honda is a half-hearted effort these days.
Agreed. I feel they have either become too complacent or just plain careless. They probably went into hibernation right after the success of older generation City. Now they just seem to push out half baked products from slumber at prices which are ridiculous at best.
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I may use the Sunroof once in a year, but Magic seats come in handy on day to day basis. Rather Honda wants all WRV owners to shift to Hill stations. Imagine opening the Sunroof after parking the Car in Bangalore. Within 2-3 hours of parking, the Car will be covered with dust.
Exactly my point!

Who uses a sunroof in India? It's a novelty at best. With scorching heat of 40 degrees in Hyderabad, I won't for sure.

I liked the fact that they've given cruise control in this when except for Polo and Ameo, no other car has that in the compact hatch/sedan segment.

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It's amazing how ground clearance has become a go to feature nowadays! Very few seem to be bothered by the deletion of adjustable neck rests and magic seats. Is the ground clearance of Jazz really that bad?
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It's amazing how ground clearance has become a go to feature nowadays! Very few seem to be bothered by the deletion of adjustable neck rests and magic seats. Is the ground clearance of Jazz really that bad?
It's just 160-odd mm's. So higher is definitely better however deletion of the adjustable headrests is a compromise. Another case of a necessary feature compromised for accommodating some unnecessary ones.

At least a 60:40 split would've been better if not magic seats.
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I don't buy the 'features will push prices up' argument. It's Honda's greed more than anything else.

They may offer more features later on, but they've missed a golden opportunity to shake up the C-SUV segment. Indian market is notorious for not giving second chances, even to a worthy product. No need to look elsewhere, ask the repositioned previous-gen Jazz, which never recovered from its initial pricing debacle. Given a choice, I'd actually take that car over its current generation anyday without a second thought.
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When they have the engine ready, why was this not available at the time of launch? The impact would have been completely different!
Because it would cannibalize on the newly launched Honda City 2017 which is, apparently, more important a brand than WRV in India.

I think Honda's plan is to launch 1.5 ltr with CVT once enthusiasm over the City reduces and other brands launch their 2017 facelifts (Verna, S-Cross, I'm looking at you!). Anyway, the pricing of WRV CVT with the bigger engine will hit that 13-15L on-road bracket.
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April 2017 issue of Autocar India. Page 35.

Honda WR-V is likely to get 1.5 litre petrol engine. And CVT transmission. The article says Honda is "working" on this - so I guess this might take some time.

120 BHP on a 1.1 tonne car equals power to weight ratio of 110. It should fly! (not off the showroom floor I mean, but definitely off the traffic signal)
Fingers crossed. Just the kind of news that most of us were wanting to hear. Hopefully with GST in place, they would launch the 1.5 iVtec + CVT later this year. The WR-V should have had that option right from day 1. Honda missed a trick and should make amends before its too late.

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Anyway, the pricing of WRV CVT with the bigger engine will hit that 13-15L on-road bracket.
If you see the price difference between the top end City 2017 iDTEC and WR-V VX iDTEC, it is around 3.3 L based on an earlier post here. I would assume the same price differential between the City 2017 VX A/T and the WR-V 1.5 iVTEC A/T when launched. 12.5-13L looks like a more probable price. Honda is unlikely to equip the WR-V with 6 airbags ever, so comparison with the ZX variant of the City is futile.
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Default Re: Honda WR-V production begins in India. EDIT: Launched at Rs. 7.75 lakh

A Honda birdie tweets that the WR-V 1.5L i-VTEC will be available with the CVT transmission only, in a single VX variant. No MT on the cards, as of now.

Launch will.probably be in the next 3-4 months.
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A Honda birdie tweets that the WR-V 1.5L i-VTEC will be available with the CVT transmission only, in a single VX variant. No MT on the cards, as of now.
Unnecessarily adds Rs. 1.3 to 1.5 Lacs to on-road price. Plus puts off customers who prefer manual.

Same engine, same transmission (CVT) and same weight as Honda City means we are looking at 0 - 100 kmph timing of around 11.5 seconds. Not much of a "hot" compact SUV I guess, but equal to S-Cross 1.6 (MT) and slightly quicker than Ford Ecosport 1.0 (MT)

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1.5 engine with CVT should have been available from day 1 itself. Honda needs to junk the 1.2 (even though its decent for only town use) and just stick to 1.5.

WRV with 1.5 Engine, CVT, 6 Airbags, and the existing Sunroof, Keyless Entry, etc would be the compact SUV to buy.

Lets hope those 6 Airbags also trickle in.

Honda is so slow they need a shot of something to wake them up and then theyre wondering why their cars dont sell.
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