Verna crdi NO ABS why ?? - Team-BHP

cooldude1988765 · 2nd November 2006, 06:34

Why is the verna crdi not being offered with abs ??
The sales person was saying that hyundai decided not to install abs because the engine was too heavy... Is the weight of a car a factor in installing abs ???
My dad said the braking experience was sacry when he tried to bring the car to a complete halt at about 120-130 ..
Can anybody Please confirm this ???

GTO · 2nd November 2006, 09:31

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The sales person was saying that hyundai decided not to install abs because the engine was too heavy... Is the weight of a car a factor in installing abs ???

Rubbish. Weight has nothing to do with it. The real reason is cost, and to differentiate the petrol / diesel versions.

If anything, the Verna common-rail needs the ABS more than the Petrol since it is much faster.

rahul_intlad · 2nd November 2006, 09:58

Although ABS is not available as a standard feature in the CRDi version it is available as an optional feature for RS. 20,000[approx] extra.
ABS is installed from hyundai side by paying extra cash so what is the logic of the salesmen in this case??

maxbhp · 2nd November 2006, 10:06

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Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

Why is the verna crdi not being offered with abs ??
The sales person was saying that hyundai decided not to install abs because the engine was too heavy... Is the weight of a car a factor in installing abs ???
My dad said the braking experience was sacry when he tried to bring the car to a complete halt at about 120-130 ..
Can anybody Please confirm this ???

They have realeased 2 models in Diesel , and the higher one comes with an ABS and all round discs . This car needs a good driver to take her to limits. one thing I noticed is that , where a normal car decelerates a bit when the accelerator pedal is left , I mean car slows a bit down but Verna when you leave the accelerator the car doesnt seem to slow down, I mean dip or what ever the technical name is ...its quite scary in the begning but what an Engine , really makes people gaga over it . Imagine a V6 Crdi in Sonata for 16 lacs...Mama...mia....I hate hyundai ....to be frank but I gotta admit onething...their diesels literally rock right now !

ajmat · 2nd November 2006, 11:00

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Originally Posted by GTO

Rubbish. Weight has nothing to do with it. The real reason is cost, and to differentiate the petrol / diesel versions.

If anything, the Verna common-rail needs the ABS more than the Petrol since it is much faster.

Ditto Skoda policy also

When I was considering an ABS Santro - "sir, ABS not required in town" - hmmm, i know a guy who could have done with ABS when a trailer was abandoned in the mibble of airport road!!!

nitrous · 2nd November 2006, 11:21

[quote=maxbhp]They have realeased 2 models in Diesel , and the higher one comes with an ABS and all round discs . /QUOTE]
Since when?

msdivy · 2nd November 2006, 11:40

It could be more of marketing ploy than any technical. Verna CRDi with ABS, plus all the bells & whistles (ICE, Alloys, etc) would price it almost equal to Elantra CRDi (8.63 ex showroom).
I guess they have make a case for:
(1) Accent CRDi without ABS (7.15L),
(2) Verna CRDi without ABS (7.35L) and
(3) Elantra CRDi (with ABS, EBD, Airbags, etc) (8.63L)

Insane Devil · 2nd November 2006, 12:33

MAXBHP: seriously, since when have they got 2 models in the VERNA Crdi? As far as i know/i have seen, they have only one model and that is with no frills.

Main reason Hyundai is not giving ABS as standard is the price issue. Already the Cost of the Verna is high coz of the upgraded and better engine, so they have cut all extras that one can do without... while in this segment AC & Power Windows have become a necessity, so that is provided. Wish they had even given the Power side view mirrors.

msdivy · 2nd November 2006, 12:51

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Originally Posted by Insane Devil

MAXBHP: seriously, since when have they got 2 models in the VERNA Crdi? As far as i know/i have seen, they have only one model and that is with no frills.

Hyundai does have option for ABS (along with disc brakes on all wheels) with Verna CRDi. The sale guy told me it would cost approx Rs 20,000/- extra and had to be made-to-order and so more time for delivery.

bilal · 2nd November 2006, 12:54

Yes,this is a serious omission from Hyundais part(obviously due to cost reasons) and more so when one considers the serious speeds this car is capable of.I've heard of 4wheel disc and ABS as an option on this car

Insane Devil · 2nd November 2006, 13:38

MSDIVY, exactly what i am saying... There is no model with Verna with ABS as "standard equipment". ABS is OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT at an extra cost.

That was to ask MAXBHP as to which second version of diesel verna he is talking of, as an option added car is not consider as a "variant"

msdivy · 2nd November 2006, 13:53

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Originally Posted by Insane Devil

MSDIVY, exactly what i am saying... There is no model with Verna with ABS as "standard equipment". ABS is OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT at an extra cost.

That was to ask MAXBHP as to which second version of diesel verna he is talking of, as an option added car is not consider as a "variant"

Ohhh, Option Vs Variant,

typeOnegative · 2nd November 2006, 17:10

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Originally Posted by ajmat

.... when a trailer was abandoned in the mibble of airport road!!!

Funny.

What exactly happened? I would second the salesman actually. Your acquaintance must have been doing a crazy speed to get into trouble.

mail4ajo · 2nd November 2006, 18:11

The CRDi is already highly priced and adding more goodies like ABS and all wheel disc brakes(Do you think ABS is a goodie or a neccessity?) would mean the price gets escalated even higher to a range where the competition would beat it.

I heard the CRDi is good at its game and woud put many petrols to shame. But the Indian consumer always get to lick the lollipop that is given after bleeding us to the last drop.....

maxbhp · 28th November 2006, 09:05

[quote=nitrous;319658]

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Originally Posted by maxbhp

They have realeased 2 models in Diesel , and the higher one comes with an ABS and all round discs . /QUOTE]
Since when?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insane Devil

MSDIVY, exactly what i am saying... There is no model with Verna with ABS as "standard equipment". ABS is OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT at an extra cost.

That was to ask MAXBHP as to which second version of diesel verna he is talking of, as an option added car is not consider as a "variant"

Am sorry for being late to reply any way what I had meant is as someone had pointed out , there is an option of ABS and all round discs, the term higher model is my mistake (limited knowledge),

never thought that as a serious mistake . Am sorry ladies and gentle man ! please accept my apology .
Thankyou.
REagards ,
MAxbhp .

2nd November 2006, 06:34	#1 (permalink)
cooldude1988765 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 885	Verna crdi NO ABS why ?? Why is the verna crdi not being offered with abs ?? The sales person was saying that hyundai decided not to install abs because the engine was too heavy... Is the weight of a car a factor in installing abs ??? My dad said the braking experience was sacry when he tried to bring the car to a complete halt at about 120-130 .. Can anybody Please confirm this ??? __________________ I never thought it was humanly possible, but this both sucks and blows. - Bart Simpson

2nd November 2006, 11:21	#6 (permalink)
nitrous Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 5,600 View My Garage	[quote=maxbhp]They have realeased 2 models in Diesel , and the higher one comes with an ABS and all round discs . /QUOTE] Since when? __________________ Han:The Red Evo's yours Sean:What do u mean? H:U're representing me now...What did U think, I'm gonna let you roll in a hyundai?

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mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,212 View My Garage	The CRDi is already highly priced and adding more goodies like ABS and all wheel disc brakes(Do you think ABS is a goodie or a neccessity?) would mean the price gets escalated even higher to a range where the competition would beat it. I heard the CRDi is good at its game and woud put many petrols to shame. But the Indian consumer always get to lick the lollipop that is given after bleeding us to the last drop..... __________________ 06 Alto LXi 97 Zen LX 03 HH Ambition RC Cars - HPI Baja 5B SS, Thunder Tiger SledgeHammer S50, ST-1 & Sparrowhawk XB**

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2nd November 2006, 09:58	#3 (permalink)
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,563	Although ABS is not available as a standard feature in the CRDi version it is available as an optional feature for RS. 20,000[approx] extra. ABS is installed from hyundai side by paying extra cash so what is the logic of the salesmen in this case??

2nd November 2006, 11:40	#7 (permalink)
msdivy BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 484	It could be more of marketing ploy than any technical. Verna CRDi with ABS, plus all the bells & whistles (ICE, Alloys, etc) would price it almost equal to Elantra CRDi (8.63 ex showroom). I guess they have make a case for: (1) Accent CRDi without ABS (7.15L), (2) Verna CRDi without ABS (7.35L) and (3) Elantra CRDi (with ABS, EBD, Airbags, etc) (8.63L)

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Insane Devil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 880 View My Garage	MAXBHP: seriously, since when have they got 2 models in the VERNA Crdi? As far as i know/i have seen, they have only one model and that is with no frills. Main reason Hyundai is not giving ABS as standard is the price issue. Already the Cost of the Verna is high coz of the upgraded and better engine, so they have cut all extras that one can do without... while in this segment AC & Power Windows have become a necessity, so that is provided. Wish they had even given the Power side view mirrors.

2nd November 2006, 12:54	#10 (permalink)
bilal Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kerala Posts: 8	Yes,this is a serious omission from Hyundais part(obviously due to cost reasons) and more so when one considers the serious speeds this car is capable of.I've heard of 4wheel disc and ABS as an option on this car

2nd November 2006, 13:38	#11 (permalink)
Insane Devil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 880 View My Garage	MSDIVY, exactly what i am saying... There is no model with Verna with ABS as "standard equipment". ABS is OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT at an extra cost. That was to ask MAXBHP as to which second version of diesel verna he is talking of, as an option added car is not consider as a "variant"