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Old 10th May 2017, 13:10   #106
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Just not to blame the auto manufacturers only, buyers are also to blame.
You hit the nail on the head there! Not just cars, we usually go for everything that's cheap. The auto makers have exploited this mindset of ours and sold us vehicles that wouldn't even be taken as scrap in the European and American markets. I do realise that the auto makers in India will not make safety as a priority just for morality purpose but as you said, due to the norms.

I was just hoping against hope that maybe there'll be some divine realisation on the manufacturers part and they make safety a priority.

Thanks for the sectional shapes and their load capacity related info!
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...buyers are also to blame. "Bas saste mein mil jaaye" (just get it cheap) mentality has done biggest dis-service. The latest example being the queue outside dealer to buy BSIII vehicles and least bothering about the environment.
India is a developing country, and the monthly income of many families are in the 10-30K range. Struggling to survive for their daily life, any kind of saving from their income is a welcome thing. So, no surprise in the attitude you mentioned.

For the blessed customers who have the luxury of upper-5-digits or 6-digits salary, they always can think about the active / passive safety techniques implemented in a car.

But consider the ~13 lakh two-wheelers sold every month. For these customers, a basic four-wheeler is always a better step they can take in the direction of safety. 4 wheels to balance them on the road and a roof to safeguard from the rains and hot sun, is their best option over a 2-wheeler.
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Just not to blame the auto manufacturers only, buyers are also to blame. "Bas saste mein mil jaaye" (just get it cheap) mentality has done biggest dis-service. The latest example being the queue outside dealer to buy BSIII vehicles and least bothering about the environment.
"Saste mein mil jaye" has seen exceptions, what with people buying Volkswagen cars even after how with their Diesel-gate episode, they showed how much consideration they give to a consumer's environment and sentiment!

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You hit the nail on the head there! Not just cars, we usually go for everything that's cheap. The auto makers have exploited this mindset of ours and sold us vehicles that wouldn't even be taken as scrap in the European and American markets.
The same European and American markets were exploited to the extent possible by the above mentioned Diesel-gate episode, and see how much time Volkswagen is taking to acknowledge and make amends!

"Going for everything that is cheap" - as quoted above - might not be a very general statement anymore - Chevrolet Sail Twins, Chevrolet Enjoy, Datsun Go Twins, Maruti Celerio Diesel etc. otherwise should have seen the light of the day, these were rejected. The Indian market is learning, and the consumer today is more intelligent.

While China showed to the world how to make cheap cars among all other things cheap, let us take pride in the fact that it is the Indian market that made the manufactures realize the potential of making value-for-money cars that are affordable and not really cheap!

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India is a developing country, and the monthly income of many families are in the 10-30K range. Struggling to survive for their daily life, any kind of saving from their income is a welcome thing. So, no surprise in the attitude you mentioned.
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But consider the ~13 lakh two-wheelers sold every month. For these customers, a basic four-wheeler is always a better step
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I agree. Hopefully in the years to come, the country's economy improves and the manufacturing costs of safety kits come down - and these twin benefits enable the consumers to be more safety aware and afford the same!

Note: Kindly excuse the digression from the topic.

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Seems like there is an automatic headlamp feature in this variant.
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The all-new DZire's ZDI AGS (AMT) variant reaches a dealership stockyard.

Notice the different layout of the buttons on the keyless-entry keyfob, specially the boot release button?

Also, the Head Unit of the ZDI is different from the ZDI+ - much smaller, and doesn't look like a touchscreen unit either.


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Notice the different layout of the buttons on the keyless-entry keyfob, specially the boot release button?
This keyfob and its child parts(transponder etc) are much much cheaper than the ones currently available on Swift/S cross/Ciaz etc.

My sources tell me that the NEXA cars will have older design keyfob which was much premium looking and expensive, whereas slowly, the newly launched Marutis will get this smaller cheap looking keyfob.

Expensive keyfob, which will be exclusive to NEXA cars:

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Clearly the ZDi seems to miss out on

LED headlamps
Smartplay system (this has the regular ICE that comes from celerio onwards)
Reverse cam

Basically every feature that made it look like it deserved a segment above.
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I think we should all just focus on talking about how amazing this car looks, both inside and out, rather than debate on Indian safety/quality etc.

I can't stop admiring the design of this new Dzire. Lots of nice attention to detail, like the blackened headlamps, flat bottom wheel and even the classy auto gear shifter.

Great job Maruti! Looks awesome and definitely worth considering.
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Maruti has a winner on the books. If I were Honda or Ford, I'd be ready to just cut short my price and just sell my pseudo-sedans at whatever price I get before they launch this. And then keep the pressure up in terms of pricing. It's gonna wipe the floor with it's competitors.
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Clearly the ZDi seems to miss out on

LED headlamps
Smartplay system (this has the regular ICE that comes from celerio onwards)
Reverse cam

Basically every feature that made it look like it deserved a segment above.
Looking at the pricing of the recently launched cars which sport the LED headlamps feature, I am glad there is 'Z' version without this. Adding an AMT to it is welcome as well.

Reverse Cam can be retrofitted? and for some reason touchscreen on HUs never appealed to me.

Hoping they have fixed the AMT issues that is running as a separate thread here.

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The all-new DZire is not yet launched, and it has featured in a high-speed accident already!

Most probably a car in transit to a dealership somewhere near Gwalior (M.P.), the all-new DZire collided heavily with a Tata Safari Storme and bore the brunt of the impact on it's side, while the Storme felt it on it's front on the driver side, as shared by a DriveSpark reader.

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From the images, it appears that the Tata Safari Storme has hit the new Maruti Dzire from the side, and the new Dzire seems to have bore the brunt with the side profile damaged heavily, especially the driver side door.

Much of the impact is on the new Maruti Dzire, while the Tata Safari Storme's right front fender and wheel have been damaged severely.

There is no confirmation on the status of the occupants of the new Maruti Dzire nor the Tata Safari Storme. However, with the images, it can be said that the occupants of the new Dzire might have had much of the impact.
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The all-new DZire's ZDI AGS (AMT) variant reaches a dealership stockyard.

Also, the Head Unit of the ZDI is different from the ZDI+ - much smaller, and doesn't look like a touchscreen unit either.
That's a bad news. Instead of giving an obsolete HU, Maruti should've left it blank, so that we can install a HU on our own. Nowadays, every electronic equipment comes with a touch screen, and here we're offered a dead unit. Maruti spoiled the Ignis in the same way. AMT users had no other choice but to live with an Ugly HU.

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The all-new DZire is not yet launched, and it has featured in a high-speed accident already!
Dzire launched with a bang!

Bad omen! Should've put a Kaala teeka. One the brighter side and I wish, If the Driver and occupants, if any, come out unscathed will be a plus point for it's Safety features and heartech platform.

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That's a bad news. Instead of giving an obsolete HU, Maruti should've left it blank, so that we can install a HU on our own. Nowadays, every electronic equipment comes with a touch screen, and here we're offered a dead unit. Maruti spoiled the Ignis in the same way. AMT users had no other choice but to live with an Ugly HU.
If that had been the case, the reaction would be: "An automatic without a HU? what people at maruti are smoking?"
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The all-new DZire is not yet launched, and it has featured in a high-speed accident already!

Most probably a car in transit to a dealership somewhere near Gwalior (M.P.),
This looks like the infamous Gwalior-Tekanpur section on Gwalior-Jhansi highway. Expansion and quadrupling has been moving at snail's pace for the last 3 years and sections merge and separate without adequate notice.
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