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Old 5th June 2017, 08:15   #1
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I was browsing through the official website of the Scorpio the day before yesterday and was surprised to see the price for the AT 2WD and 4WD variants missing.

I then contacted their customer care to check but they were not aware of any such development. After this, twitter showed it power and Mahindra has now officially confirmed that they have discontinued the Scorpio AT on both the variants.

While this wasn't the best AT, it was the only AT 4WD BOF SUV in its segment and I have seen quite a few 2/4WD ATs on the streets across the country. It wasn't a sales dud.

So this abrupt halt to production, to me means that M&M is readying an all new AT Scorpio with a different AT box. Could there be some other reason as well?
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It should come with the 6 speed AT which the XUV has, which is better in every way in comparison to what was offered in the Scorpio.

The only question is when..
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It should come with the 6 speed AT which the XUV has, which is better in every way in comparison to what was offered in the Scorpio.

The only question is when..
It won't fit the longitudinal layout of Scorpio, but Aisin has other gearboxes for this layout.
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I was browsing through the official website of the Scorpio the day before yesterday and was surprised to see the price for the AT 2WD and 4WD variants missing.
I then contacted their customer care to check but they were not aware of any such development. After this, twitter showed it power and Mahindra has now officially confirmed that they have discontinued the Scorpio AT on both the variants.
While this wasn't the best AT, it was the only AT 4WD BOF SUV in its segment and I have seen quite a few 2/4WD ATs on the streets across the country. It wasn't a sales dud.
So this abrupt halt to production, to me means that M&M is readying an all new AT Scorpio with a different AT box. Could there be some other reason as well?
Thank you n.devdath for this important update. There are other owners of elderly Scorpios (like mine) who love the car & have been mulling the thought of going in for an AT model. Amen to your thought about the possibility of a new AT model!

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It won't fit the longitudinal layout of Scorpio, but Aisin has other gearboxes for this layout.
I hope M&M uses one of these GBs for the new/facelifted Scorpio and not a Ssangyong unit.

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Amen to your thought about the possibility of a new AT model!
You are welcome Shashanka, I m very, very sure of M&M launching/relaunching the AT Scorpio, they have seen it sell and know that the segment needs an AT BOF 4WD SUV which the Storme is unlikely to have in the future.
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I hope M&M uses one of these GBs for the new/facelifted Scorpio and not a Ssangyong unit.
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It has now been confirmed that the facelift will be equipped with the more refined and responsive six-speed automatic gearbox from the XUV500.

Since the XUV500's Aisin-made six-speed unit was engineered for transverse engine applications, it will have to be re-engineered for the Scorpio's longitudinal layout.

http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...ox-405069.aspx
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Dear Forum,

Apaprt from the AISIN gearbox and the cosmetic upgrade, various websites mention that there is going to be a bump up in power from 120 bhp to 140 bhp. I am assuming there will be an increase in torque as well.
Does anybody know whether this has been achieved by re-tuning the ECU or some mechanicals have been changed as well for both the engine and gearbox to handle the extra power / torque.
It will be a boon for the existing enthusiast owners if the same can be achieved by keeping everything stock.
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Does anybody know whether this has been achieved by re-tuning the ECU or some mechanicals have been changed as well for both the engine and gearbox to handle the extra power / torque.
The 140 bhp mhawk engine comes with variable geometry turbo and the 120 with fixed geometry, and obvious changes in the ECM. Other than this, I think the block is same.

Not sure if the scorpio gearbox is built to handle the increase in torque power output.
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What is the status on maintenance support to existing AT units that have been sold over the years ?

Queries raised in this respect with M&M and Anand Mahindra have not elicited any response.

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What is the status on maintenance support to existing AT units that have been sold over the years ?
Well, they are legally bound to service all vehicles for 7 years from the date of sale so I wouldn't see that a big area of concern.
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Well, they are legally bound to service all vehicles for 7 years from the date of sale so I wouldn't see that a big area of concern.
Only if the required parts are available. For a niche/rare product, you can never be sure.
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Only if the required parts are available.
The OEM is bound to make them available for 7 years from the date of sale.
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The OEM is bound to make them available for 7 years from the date of sale.
Agreed . That is what that the rule book says.


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Only if the required parts are available. For a niche/rare product, you can never be sure.
My primary concern is AT box related issues. Rest should not be a major impediment in keeping the vehicle functional.

Reticence of the company in addressing a pointed query on the issue doesn't really inspire confidence.
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https://twitter.com/rs_nd_ind/status/886984517671571456
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Reticence of the company in addressing a pointed query on the issue doesn't really inspire confidence.
If I were you, I'd look at the XUV W6 AT which is a better vehicle than the Scorpio AT on all counts. However, if you have made up your mind for the Scorpio AT, I feel you can go ahead. M&M usually arrange spares and support if you maintain a good rapport with the dealer.
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The OEM is bound to make them available for 7 years from the date of sale.
10 years IIRC. But no one says, we won't make it available. Every one says, we don't have this part in stock and we have to place an order in plant/factory. So if you confirm [= pay us some advance so that ball is in our court] we can order but we can't guarantee as to when can this part be available.
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