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Old 8th July 2011, 11:42   #421
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I started reading this thread like a story book actually. What I actually expected to see were articles on how RTO officials are generally eating money under the table to allot fancy numbers, politicians doing the same thing, etc. But what did I see instead? T-bhp'ians proudly posting how they bribe officials in the RTO to get these special numbers, one BHP-ian even used CLOUT to get these special numbers.

I'm just a bit confused here. We do slap stickers on our cars, saying "I DRIVE SAFE" and "WEAR A SEATBELT", heck we even accept the rules and regulations of the almighty team-bhp.com to follow road rules and not drink and drive etc. Why are we encouraging paying RTO officials for special numbers? Again, when the RTO themselves are corrupt, why are we encouraging them to continue to be so?

Sure they're allowed to officially auction numbers, but 'knowing someone' or 'having contacts' to weasel out a number reeks of underhandedness to me. And then again, deceiving traffic police and the people around by using trickery in the font type to make the numbers look like something else? Are we actually proud of breaking the law? We seem to be patting each other on the back and saying "hey, that's a pretty neat trick" and "wow, you really made the font look cool in this one".

Aren't we the same folks who cringe when a headlight is smoked and it reduces visibility on the road? I for one, do not think this thread is morally correct, nor is it saying the right things about team-bhp.com. Just open this thread from page 1 and look at the posts. Please stop encouraging team bhpians from breaking the law!
I donít think there is anything wrong with the thread as such. Agree that its wrong when someone boast about paying the RTO/officials to get hold of a specific number. But (from what I know) itís a legal practice nowadays to book a preferred number. You get a receipt for the booking, and if your selection is not allotted successfully, you will get a refund as well. For e.g.; if 3 persons bid for a number, and only one got it, the other 2 will get a refund. IIRC, in Thrissur RTO (Kerala), the price for number selection starts at Rs.2000. They publish the currently running series and also the booking details in the website as well. I guess there is enough transparency in the system, and hence no harm in discussing it here. Of course, if someone mention about under-the-table dealings, that should be discouraged.
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Old 11th July 2011, 11:59   #422
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One of my friends is a Fancy No: maniac

Swift VXi - KL ** - 1
Innova - KL ** - A1
Fortuner - KL ** - B1
HD 48 - KL 8 ** - 48 (Registered in nearby district to get the # 48)
i20 - KL ** - A 200 (# 120 was already issued therefore chose 200)

The money spent on these no:s in total would by a fully loaded midsize sedan!

People living around Ottapalam would be knowing this guy.

The number CAR 8055 - or CAR BOSS was my dads car for 2 months. It was a 85 or 86 model M800 but re-registered to KLW before we bought it. It had the old book type RC & that is how i found the previous no:.

The car was in a bad condition & we sold it off after finding that the car had major problems.

A big businessman in GCC/Kerala has 2-3 cars with no: KL** - AL 1. His name is Mohammed Ali. ALI=AL1
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That sounds good, if we go per the law at least 50% of the examples in my earlier post are legal. Capital, readable, thickness and spacing can all be per the law and it can still look fancy. For example 8055 in digital font all capital, readable, right thickness and spacing and it will look like BOSS. But one can still read 8055 and BOSS. Wow infact when you look at 8055 without the digital font it still looks BOSS, doesnt it
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Seen an Toyota Innova with the same No (8055) in chennai.
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Here is a photo of a car which has been uploaded on the Facebook Page of Delhi Traffic Police. Lots of challans have been issued by the Delhi traffic Police using the photographs uploaded by the people (fans). Now this BOSS will also be issued a challan within a day or two, and the details will be available on the facebook (Delhi Traffic Police).

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So please beware that writing numbers in special fonts is ILLEGAL, atleast for now in Delhi but if rules are implemented properly in our country then it is ILLEGAL everywhere in India.

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Guys, these prices paid in India for VIP numbers are veeeery low. Our Skoda vRS in Bombay had 7117 and the previous owner paid something like 5k for it. In Dubai, the cheapest "exclusive" number costs about AED 5-6k. That converts to Rs. 60-70k. Numbers here go for millions of dirhams, i.e., crores of Rupees for single digits.

@Sahil, yup, RTO agents are the way to go.
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Here is an update form the Joint Commissioner of Police (Traffic) - Satyendra Garg on the facebook:

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Here is an update form the Joint Commissioner of Police (Traffic) - Satyendra Garg on the facebook:

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I can't stand these stool pigeons.

Most of these guys who post pics of others, break the rules themselves, yet they try and take this moral high ground nonsense. Pathetic.
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No offence, but what you are doing here, my friend, is illegal and an act of idiocy of the highest kind. You are NOT ALLOWED to make your license plates 'fancy,' let alone change it.

And how can you think 'the number plate is not as crucial as other laws.!?' The plates are the most important identifiers of a vehicle. Will you still say the same if some car with a 'fancy' number which was written to 'look like' 'fool' hit you and ran? What will you tell the cops? "A 'fool' hit me, but I swear the plates were damn cool."
I completely agree. Manipulation of the font to resemble anything other than the number it represents shouldnt be encouraged. We have license plates for a reason after all! If you want sayings or words on your car, get a bumper sticker made!
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UPDATE on BOSS (8055):

BOSS has been challaned by the Delhi Traffic Police. Please check the facebook update by the JCP of Delhi Traffic Police.

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Delhi Traffic Police fines another BOSS on Delhi roads.

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That's a nice piece of news. However, while going through the Delhi Traffic Police FB page, I saw pictures of a lot of cops riding without helmets and / or 'tripling' on their bikes. I wonder, why Mr. Satyendra Garg does not post pictures and comments of how those law-breaking cops were dealt with. It seems he only has a personal grudge against the 'boss' number plates, no?
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I started reading this thread like a story book actually. What I actually expected to see were articles on how RTO officials are generally eating money under the table to allot fancy numbers, politicians doing the same thing, etc. But what did I see instead? T-bhp'ians proudly posting how they bribe officials in the RTO to get these special numbers, one BHP-ian even used CLOUT to get these special numbers.

I'm just a bit confused here. We do slap stickers on our cars, saying "I DRIVE SAFE" and "WEAR A SEATBELT", heck we even accept the rules and regulations of the almighty team-bhp.com to follow road rules and not drink and drive etc. Why are we encouraging paying RTO officials for special numbers? Again, when the RTO themselves are corrupt, why are we encouraging them to continue to be so?
Sorry to knock you off your high horse here but special numbers (as distinct from fancy fonts) are legally SOLD by the RTO here in Pune at a fixed price of between 3,000 to 1,00,000. (Link). The RTO calls them "attractive numbers".
I bought my Vento number at 5,000/- from the MH12 RTO. It is 55XX format, similar to 55YY on my Swift, which I bought used. I like that my numbers get me some attention, and maybe someday I'll have a 5 series with 5555 .
I didn't bribe anybody- just paid my dealer who dealt with the RTO himself, for a small fee- and am still on the (legal) plates that my dealer fixed. Will change to high-security plates sometime soon.
I like that RTOs have wisened up to the charm of special numbers and started generating revenue out of them. As the first post on this thread indicates, people are crazy about such things and are willing to pay huge amounts for it. I'd rather it goes into the administration's coffers than some corrupt inspector's or clerk's!
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I enquired my dealer (Mount Road KUN Hyundai) when I bought my car last year. He said 7k or 9k if in current series and 28k for out-of-series number.

I was looking for 4002 (not a fancy number, its the same number our good ol' Amby had). Didnt take it, for 28K I could've gone to the next trim level.
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During my Bangalore days, I used to see a residence in Dollars Colony JP Nagar that had many cars that had the number 612 (all from Jayanagar RTO).

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Sorry to knock you off your high horse here but special numbers (as distinct from fancy fonts) are legally SOLD by the RTO here in Pune at a fixed price of between 3,000 to 1,00,000. (Link). The RTO calls them "attractive numbers".
I bought my Vento number at 5,000/- from the MH12 RTO. It is 55XX format, similar to 55YY on my Swift, which I bought used. I like that my numbers get me some attention, and maybe someday I'll have a 5 series with 5555 .
I didn't bribe anybody- just paid my dealer who dealt with the RTO himself, for a small fee- and am still on the (legal) plates that my dealer fixed. Will change to high-security plates sometime soon.
I like that RTOs have wisened up to the charm of special numbers and started generating revenue out of them. As the first post on this thread indicates, people are crazy about such things and are willing to pay huge amounts for it. I'd rather it goes into the administration's coffers than some corrupt inspector's or clerk's!
Yes, and this was available in a small town like Thrissur (Kerala) in 2003 itself. When I bought my Ikon, we picked a number from the running series at that time, and the bill was about Rs.2000 (official receipt).
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That's a nice piece of news. However, while going through the Delhi Traffic Police FB page, I saw pictures of a lot of cops riding without helmets and / or 'tripling' on their bikes. I wonder, why Mr. Satyendra Garg does not post pictures and comments of how those law-breaking cops were dealt with. It seems he only has a personal grudge against the 'boss' number plates, no?
Gooney,

Mr. Stayendra Garg has published the photographs of 2 traffic constables, who took bribe from a car owner. Both were called by him in his office and he took their snap and uploaded on his page. There have been other instances also where traffic cops have been suspended for taking bribes. And such news have also been published in Delhi newspapers. I could not find the link where he uploaded the snap of his own men. But there are links where it is proved that he is working to improve the system:


Taking picture of vehicle must before towing - Times Of India

Delhi traffic cops' powers curbed

JCP: Head constables cannot stop commercial vehicles - Express India

THIS IS TOTALLY... | Facebook

Unauthorised bus operations: 2 suspended - Indian Express

Donít talk on cellphone on duty, women traffic cops told - Indian Express


Even politicians and Sr. Govt. Officials in Delhi (MPs, MLA etc.) are upset over the red beacons removed form their cars in the past few months. Now the Delhi Govt. is looking for an approval from union Home Ministry for more official red beacon users. Read the news here:

Give us back our red beacons, say officers - Indian Express

Don't know how is he able to work like this and that too in the capital where every second person is a VVIP.

He is proving that if the law is enforced properly then nobody is above law.

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Sorry to knock you off your high horse here but special numbers (as distinct from fancy fonts) are legally SOLD by the RTO here in Pune at a fixed price of between 3,000 to 1,00,000. (Link). The RTO calls them "attractive numbers".
I bought my Vento number at 5,000/- from the MH12 RTO. It is 55XX format, similar to 55YY on my Swift, which I bought used. I like that my numbers get me some attention, and maybe someday I'll have a 5 series with 5555 .
I didn't bribe anybody- just paid my dealer who dealt with the RTO himself, for a small fee- and am still on the (legal) plates that my dealer fixed. Will change to high-security plates sometime soon.
I like that RTOs have wisened up to the charm of special numbers and started generating revenue out of them. As the first post on this thread indicates, people are crazy about such things and are willing to pay huge amounts for it. I'd rather it goes into the administration's coffers than some corrupt inspector's or clerk's!
I liked my horse . On a more serious note, I am aware of certain RTO's offering fancy numbers legally. I even saw the Pune RTO notice of different numbers and their prices. It's just that, I know people around me who get the fancy numbers at no cost, because they 'know' people. I sometimes wish this wasn't encouraged.

The fancy plates like 0001 you see on white private cars with red beacons on top are nothing less than a symbol of corruption. Everybody knows that.

Deceptive fonts are a whole other story. Good to read about the bosses being a** whooped.
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[quote=ByDesign;2429568] It's just that, I know people around me who get the fancy numbers at no cost, because they 'know' people. I sometimes wish this wasn't encouraged.


If one manages to get a number ( without illegal gratification) that is NOT FOR SALE and would be allotted at the usual RTO rates and print your plates as per RTO norms, I see nothing wrong in this. And who is to decide which numbers are 'fancy'. A number could just be plain lucky for someone who believes in such things.
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