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Old 14th June 2007, 18:26   #76
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That, my dear netarchie is the 4x4 Endy. Hence, the extra stick.
The Endy 4WD comes with an extra stick? when even the Dicor has a rotary switch with shift on fly?
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nice, endy defenitely needs a better power house.
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The Endy 4WD comes with an extra stick? when even the Dicor has a rotary switch with shift on fly?
Yup, in true "jeep" style......maybe the "new" one will have shift on the fly
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Default SUV's in approx. 15-20L How does the new Endy fare ?

Hi Guys (and Girls, if there are any here !)

How do the following compare :
A) The New CRDI Endevour (expected to be launched anytime)
B) The New Honda CRV
C) The Mitsubushi Pajero (the one available in India at approx 21L) compare ?

I hope it is not considered off topic. There is little info available on the New Endy, hence am posting it here, as ppl on this thread may know enough to be able to suitably comment. Also, as of now, the Endy seems to be the choise, unless the new one really majorly disappoints.

A close friend is deciding between them. Has an approx. budget of about 15-20L and does not really want to consider any other option unless there is a very big benifit somewhere.

Background and priorities:

* Not into any serious off-roading. But would like to have the option to not be too restricted to only well metalled roads if he spends 15-20L.

* The image of a sucessful entrepneur is pretty important for him (call it typical for us Dilliwalas !!! )

* A fun to own and use vehicle. Mainly for city use. Also expect some 1,000 to 2,500 kms highway trips. Including hills.

* A generally trouble free ownership expreience.

* Though not terribly important, any idea on the fuel effeciencies of the vehicles would also be welcome.

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Old 16th June 2007, 01:00   #80
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If you do some searches you will find a lot of information. Anyways, here is my take on all the three.

If your friend wants the best off-roader, it is Pajero. As simple as that.

If he wants the best SUV to drive on roads, it is CRV. It has a gem of an engine.

Endy as of now, is underpowered. The new Endy is supposed to have more more powerful engine and a lot of us are waiting to TD it. I love the looks of Endy but the downside is a very bad ride. Lets see how is the ride in new Endy.
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, Have done many searches and info is available. But only really tells me what u already rightly said. Pajero for Offroading, CRV for city usage. New Endy, one has little idea of.

* How bad is CRV for bad roads, does it end up with squeaks from all around? Is the Endy cnsidered much better on this ?

* Is the Endy considered very bad for regular city use (which will account for about 85-90% of the vehicle's usage). CRV is meant to be very good for it. How is the Pajero for city usage as compared to the Endy ?

* How does the overall ownership experience compare ? Honda, I'd expect would have lesser need for repairs etc. and would have a professional setup for rerairs etc. What abotu the Endy and Pajero ?

Thanks in advance too :-)
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Dont doubt endy's off road ability as it's origin is from ranger trucks.

Pajero 2.8 is also an old school SUV like endy.

I feel amongst the lot CRV will take care of your image part,City driving, after sales service, 10% off roading even though its considered as a ladys car abroad.
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* How bad is CRV for bad roads, does it end up with squeaks from all around? Is the Endy cnsidered much better on this ?
Don't know of anyone who has used CRV consistently on bad roads. When I mentioned about the off-roading capabilities of Pajero, I meant real offroading and not bad roads.

The existing endy's ride is bad and not very comfortable for passengers on middle seat. The last seat of Endy is very very uncomfortable.

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* Is the Endy considered very bad for regular city use (which will account for about 85-90% of the vehicle's usage). CRV is meant to be very good for it. How is the Pajero for city usage as compared to the Endy ?
For city use (with decent roads), they are all good. Its just that Endy has bad rear seats.

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* How does the overall ownership experience compare ? Honda, I'd expect would have lesser need for repairs etc. and would have a professional setup for rerairs etc. What abotu the Endy and Pajero ?

Thanks in advance too :-)
Not sure about that.
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Thanks hondadude and mansidea (could not find a better way to address you !)

Wanted to confirm that the new Endy is supposed to be launched on the 20th as per showroom dealers and is expected in Delhi Showrooms on the 21st.

Some url's that may be useful are as below:

Ford Motor Company - Press Release - FORD UNVEILS “NEW FORD EVEREST” WITH INNOVATIVE PACKAGE OF TOUGH PERFORMANCE, SAFETY AND WORRY FREE OWNERSHIP PROMISE

Ford Thailand - Everest Home


The new Endy seems to be the choice as of now. Any further suggestions or comparisons between the new Endy, CRV and Pajero would be most welcome.

Cheers,

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Have seen these before but I am not sure if we will get all the features that are mentioned in there (automatic for example). Anyway, lets wait and see.
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Smile New Endeavour launched

Ford Endeavour Launched... Look at their website for more details (Ford India)

Three models (4*4, 4*2 & 4*2 Limited Edition) with

Engine: 2.5 L DuraTorq TDCI
Power: 143 PS
Torque 330 NM

Feature List:

SAFETY & SECURITY
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Ford dynamic safety engineering
Door intrusion side beams
Collapsible steering column
Dual stage Driver and co-driver airbags
Anti-lock Braking System ( ABS )
Electronic Brakeforce Distribution ( EBD )
Seatbelt pretensioner & load limiter
Limited slip dfferential ( on 4x4 )
Front fog lamps
Day-night rear view mirror
Dual Horn
Seat belts for all 7 occupants ( 6 ELR, 1 Static )
Engine immobilizer
Central locking
Remote keyless entry
Anti-theft alarm

EXTERIOR
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All new clear headlamps
Bold full chrome radiator grille
Silver wheel-arch mouldings
Rear spoiler with stop lamp
Roof rail
Aluminum side stepper
New grab-type chrome door handles
Chrome decklid handle

AUDIO
=====
In-dash 6 CD changer AM/FM and MP3 player
6 speakers

INTERIOR
=======
Two-tone ebony & camel interior environment
Plush leather upholstry
Titanium finish on IP
Leather wrap steering wheel & gear knob
2nd Row seat - 50:50 split, reclining and double folding
3rd Row seat - folding and removable
Idol stowage on IP
Dual sunglass holders
6 Cupholders
Cigarette lighter
3 Nos 12V power sockets

COMFORT & CONVENIENCE
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Environment friendly dual AC
Independent control for rear AC
Personalized AC vents for 2nd & 3rd row seats
Tilt adjustable steering
Power windows (One touch down for driver)
Electric adjustable outside mirrors
Rear wash / wipe
Rear defogger
Height adjustable driver & co-driver seat belts
Front centre armrest with storage bin
Large glove box with illumination
Remote fuel cap release
Removable ashtray
Clutch foot rest

INSTRUMENTATION
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Tachometer
Door ajar warning
Headlamp on warning
Low fuel warning
Instrument panel light adjustment
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wow what about the pricing?

edit: just saw starting from 15.52L.

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Good news & long overdue. But whats with the manufacturers these days - after all this time, they launch an engine which still develops around 115-116 bhp. OK, its a mighty refined TDCI I guess, with VGT but why not some more power ?

No changes to middle & last row seat design from what I can see on the website so that Achilles heel remains. The music system has finally received an upgrade & plays MP3, the instrument panel has got a makeover and looks good.

No Shift on the Fly still on the 4x4; the headlamps have changed, they've added on puddle lamps BELOW the OSRVMs & the limited edition model has side indicators on the OSRVM.

Of course its given them a good reason for a hefty price hike........look forward to a full fledged review by ACI soon, hope the overall performance has improved.
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Good news & long overdue. But whats with the manufacturers these days - after all this time, they launch an engine which still develops around 115-116 bhp. OK, its a mighty refined TDCI I guess, with VGT but why not some more power ?
Where did you get 115-116 bhp from. According to the specifications on the Ford website, it is 143 PS engine so that translates to 141 BHP.
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Called up Metro Ford in Bangalore. They are expecting a display vehicle today so if that happens, I am hoping for a TD tomorrow.
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