Why there are not too many Verna on the road? - Page 12 - Team-BHP

iraghava · 3rd January 2007, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equus

"The company sold 4,105 units in December 2006 as against 4,111 units in the corresponding month last year."

Ouch.. They are actually down YOY. Oh Boy, NHC sales are declining!
Long live Fiesta/Verna/Elantra/Cedia/Corolla!

6 Units is a drop good enough to celebrate??

vivekkr_99 · 3rd January 2007, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by msdivy

NHC Sale in Dec06:

[A] Apr06-Dec06: 29527 (Honda press release)
Apr06-Oct06: 24031 (Auto news - Murad Baig)
[C] Nov06 sales: 2732 (Honda press release)

[b]Sale in Dec06 = [A] - [b] - [C] = 2764 units.

Which is the actual sales figures for NHC in Dec 06? One post says it is 2764 units and another one says it is 4105... Which one to believe?

msdivy · 3rd January 2007, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekkr_99

Which is the actual sales figures for NHC in Dec 06? One post says it is 2764 units and another one says it is 4105... Which one to believe?

4105 in Dec06 includes NHC, Civic, CRV & Accord - all Honda sales.

Sush · 3rd January 2007, 16:03

I am seeing the same number of Vernas and Aveos in Noida.
I see more Fiestas but the numebr of Vernas is also growing.

supremeBaleno · 3rd January 2007, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

6 Units is a drop good enough to celebrate??

Exactly what I was thinking on reading that post...

msdivy · 3rd January 2007, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

6 Units is a drop good enough to celebrate??

Why would anybody celebrate if Honda sales drop?

vivekkr_99 · 3rd January 2007, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by msdivy

4105 in Dec06 includes NHC, Civic, CRV & Accord - all Honda sales.

That clears it.. thanks.

msdivy · 3rd January 2007, 17:22

Well, 2764 NHC is quite good when Verna-Accent combined could manage only 942.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/347570-post1.html (Indian Car Sales Figures and Analysis)

Equus · 3rd January 2007, 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

6 Units is a drop good enough to celebrate??

Yes - When the others are having a ball!!
I have no issues with the NHC but it must offer atleast ABS at the current prices.

goldie_malhotra · 3rd January 2007, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equus

Yes - When the others are having a ball!!
I have no issues with the NHC but it must offer atleast ABS at the current prices.

How come the others are having a "ball". AFAIK, there are no figures for Fiesta, Aveo or Verna for last Dec for comparison.

Another reason for decline in sales could be that Honda are refusing to give any year-end discounts unlike others (though I know for a fact its not true).

msdivy · 3rd January 2007, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equus

Yes - When the others are having a ball!!
I have no issues with the NHC but it must offer atleast ABS at the current prices.

In Singapore (where cars are expensive), difference between ABS & non-ABS NHC is SGD 2000. Considering localization and other stuff, ABS might jack up price of NHC by about 35K.

PS: Just a comparison of prices (ex New Delhi) of cars in the same segment which have ABS as option:

Verna XXi (non-ABS): 6.93L (anybody heard of Verna with ABS?)
Aveo 1.6 LT with ABS: 7.02L
NHX GXi (non-ABS): 7.16L
Fiesta 1.6 SXI with ABS: 7.36L
NHX VTEC (non-ABS): 7.89L

Sam Kapasi · 3rd January 2007, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equus

Honda Siel Cars India Ltd. :: Press Releases

"The company sold 4,105 units in December 2006 as against 4,111 units in the corresponding month last year."

Ouch.. They are actually down YOY. Oh Boy, NHC sales are declining!
Long live Fiesta/Verna/Elantra/Cedia/Corolla!

You mean to tell me Honda actually lost the approximate sale of ONE unit for every new car model that came out?

esteem_lover · 3rd January 2007, 22:37

I think we are going totally offtopic here.

actually, there are quite a few vernas on the road now, so i think it might be time to close this thread.

p.s i am not trying to be a pseudo mod LOL

rohitbagai · 3rd January 2007, 23:35

The only reason I opened up the discussion in this thread was because so much talking was done before the launch of Verna. But as soon as Verna launched it was rarely visible on roads. Hyundai or any other major car companies need road presence of the model to boost sales. But this was not the case with Verna. I even heard its launch was delayed due to some technical problems. Is it deliberate that Hyundai is not producing enough because they feel that the car is still to be fine-tuned (Such as rear suspension or may be thin tyres?). Fiesta is also in same segment and when it was launched the streets were full of them. In spite of overall market in buoyant mood what's making Hyundai limit Verna. There are always two sides of a coin. If the product is perfect there will be a pull (demand). But seems like Hyundai is not "Pushing"(supply) Verna?

abhibh · 4th January 2007, 00:14

I see Estilo more than Verna's here

Though there are vernas on roads. Still people are waiting for their cars to be delivered i thinkg but i daily see 5+ vernas and 5+ Estilos.

3rd January 2007, 22:37	#178 (permalink)
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras Posts: 5,375 View My Garage	I think we are going totally offtopic here. actually, there are quite a few vernas on the road now, so i think it might be time to close this thread. p.s i am not trying to be a pseudo mod LOL __________________ Goodbye Dada, you made us proud.

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abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In the Hood Near You Posts: 1,575 View My Garage	I see Estilo more than Verna's here Though there are vernas on roads. Still people are waiting for their cars to be delivered i thinkg but i daily see 5+ vernas and 5+ Estilos. __________________ SAX265.20! = Art of Slap for Bass I am trying to put the boom in the trunk, take it to the hoop, cross over, then dunk ;)

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msdivy BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 475	Well, 2764 NHC is quite good when Verna-Accent combined could manage only 942. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/347570-post1.html (Indian Car Sales Figures and Analysis)

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rohitbagai BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 186	The only reason I opened up the discussion in this thread was because so much talking was done before the launch of Verna. But as soon as Verna launched it was rarely visible on roads. Hyundai or any other major car companies need road presence of the model to boost sales. But this was not the case with Verna. I even heard its launch was delayed due to some technical problems. Is it deliberate that Hyundai is not producing enough because they feel that the car is still to be fine-tuned (Such as rear suspension or may be thin tyres?). Fiesta is also in same segment and when it was launched the streets were full of them. In spite of overall market in buoyant mood what's making Hyundai limit Verna. There are always two sides of a coin. If the product is perfect there will be a pull (demand). But seems like Hyundai is not "Pushing"(supply) Verna?