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Old 6th April 2007, 21:06   #61
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This design job's been done by European designers, not Tata's inhouse guys.
Are you sure? Tata's have a fairly well established design centre in-house. Am not sure if they would like to spend on an overseas design agency for a vehicle which does not warrant that sort of investment.
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I think this vehicle (too) is ugly. 12 years after they launched the first version, which has remained virtually unchanged, the world has moved to higher aesthetic expectations at nearly the same price. If they are going to re-invest in a brand new set of body parts, they should have protected their investment with a really striking design.

There were other things they could have changed in the original style, even while keeping it still boxy, and got a much more proportionate and smart vehicle.

I would reserve any more comments till I see the real thing. Right now, I think it is ugly. I hope I'm proved wrong.
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MPower: Isn't the Ingenio supposed to be a MPV [read: mini-van/ Innova-like], and not a MUV?
Mods is reject this because it might call for a new thread. But does anyone have any idea about the ingenio? Looks? Specs? features?
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Are you sure?
Yes, I'm sure. A German company is involved in the styling of the new Sumo. I had posted the design agency's details in one of my earlier posts.

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Tata's have a fairly well established design centre in-house. Am not sure if they would like to spend on an overseas design agency for a vehicle which does not warrant that sort of investment.
True, Tata have the best auto R&D facility in India in the form of their ERC. However, the fact is that after its initial runaway success, Sumo has been facing declining sales what with competitors having introduced superior and more contemporary products. By upgrading both engine and styling in the new Sumo, Tata wants to arrest and reverse this trend. That's the logic behind engaging a specialist European auto design house.
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Yes,it is a german company called IAV GmbH

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Tata Motors has roped in German engineering company, IAV GmbH (Ingenieurgesellschaft Auto und Verkehr), to design and develop its new multi-utility vehicle (MUV) platform. The new platform may replace Tata Motors' warhorse Sumo which has served the company for over 12 years
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thanks ADC. New sumo really look handsome and macho that the current one. noise is much better than the current Truck like sound.interior is almost same as victa. a bit changed. i asked many times about technical aspects. but i got nothing.. it will not have rear spare wheel. tail lamps look like indigo.and please go and buy safari yar. or just wait and buy 2.2 lit. safari. sumo can never take place of Safari.
hi - Any more sightings? or is it now showtime in showrooms - it is supposed to get out sometime in April.
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april autocar india reports sale of 'tata's old workhorse sumo edged mahindra scorpio's sales and finds its position in top 10 list for feb 2k7.(abt 3100+ units sold)

How did this take place, even if there is no large discounts and the confirmed new sumo's arrival?
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For an MUV.....this vehicle looks damn good!! We ve already seen the face in the avtar of the new 207. Its high time Mahindra does something with the Bolero.
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For an MUV.....this vehicle looks damn good!! We ve already seen the face in the avtar of the new 207. Its high time Mahindra does something with the Bolero.
What do you expect from the Mahindra now...? They have already spoilt the looks of the Bolero...oops...I think you mean Mahindra should discontinue the Bolero!
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the sumo's interior is way too basic, when will tata understand this issue????
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@nikeGoldWing : Since the Sumo is aimed as a people mover, I dont really suppose they need to concentrate all that much on providing comforts. If the competition does, so will they. All a matter of who will take the first step.
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What do you expect from the Mahindra now...? They have already spoilt the looks of the Bolero...oops...I think you mean Mahindra should discontinue the Bolero!
my point exactly!! they should either dump it or further strip it down to till land and start afresh with a new model.
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april autocar india reports sale of 'tata's old workhorse sumo edged mahindra scorpio's sales and finds its position in top 10 list for feb 2k7.(abt 3100+ units sold)

How did this take place, even if there is no large discounts and the confirmed new sumo's arrival?
Took me by surprise too... Dont understand what happened///

Anybody got ideas on why this phenomenon happened???
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Took me by surprise too... Dont understand what happened///

Anybody got ideas on why this phenomenon happened???
More and more IT companies and call centers are preferring TATA Sumo, since the old workhorse (Qualis) is no longer in production so it is being replaced. TATA Sumo is cheaper than Tavera, Innova hence its being preferred.
Just my 2 cents.
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More and more IT companies and call centers are preferring TATA Sumo, since the old workhorse (Qualis) is no longer in production so it is being replaced. TATA Sumo is cheaper than Tavera, Innova hence its being preferred.
Just my 2 cents.
Is the call centres using spacio/tourin?
So, sumo includes the spacio/tourin, and victa as well i suppose.

Also, innova which sold in 5ks is out of the ACI top sales list.
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