M&M flags off biodiesel / hybrid Scorpio, Bolero DI - Team-BHP

navdeep · 7th February 2007, 18:50

Pioneering the user of alternate fuels in India, Mahindra & Mahindra (M&M) today unveiled the bio-diesel Scorpio and Bolero DI vehicles for 100% real world usage trials.

The Scorpio with indigenously developed CRDE technology is the first Asian vehicle in its class to run on 100% bio-diesel. M&M also unveiled a 5% bio-diesel tractor.

Source : http://business-standard.com/common/...N&autono=20399

gr8guzzler · 7th February 2007, 20:12

Good News...How fast do you reckon we can see these on the road?

sidharth_j · 7th February 2007, 23:45

Mahindra seems to be quite involved in the alternative fuels development, with their Scorpio hybrid, and now this, the bio-diesel Scorpio.

It is nice to see an Indian Manufacturer take concrete steps to bring such vehicles into the market place....hopefully our govt will lend them a helping hand by way of tax cuts/exemptions on such initiatives.

Zappo · 8th February 2007, 00:35

100% BD?!! Hmmm... now that sounds like some serious business. Best of them run on 40%. What is "real world trials"? Hope they are not trying to make guinea pigs out of their customers.

Prithvi · 8th February 2007, 11:58

Wow! THis is great from M&M. When do these come on the road. I am waiting for the new Scorpio. Does anyone have news when its out?
The hybrid Scorpio sounds interesting. Hope they launch it soon too.

amit · 8th February 2007, 12:05

Haven't they launched the Scorpio bio-diesel for regular sales? Which fuel pumps sell bio-diesels? And what happened to the Mercedes bio-diesel project. They have had a C class running on bio-diesel for years now.

kkr2k2 · 8th February 2007, 12:08

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Originally Posted by amit

Haven't they launched the Scorpio bio-diesel for regular sales? Which fuel pumps sell bio-diesels? And what happened to the Mercedes bio-diesel project. They have had a C class running on bio-diesel for years now.

may be they run the car for a million kms for testing purposes

benbsb29 · 8th February 2007, 12:15

We really should applaud M&M for taking the initiative to develop such projects. Looks like the success of the Scorpio has done for them what the Pulsar has done for Bajaj..... the drive towards innovation.

tsk1979 · 8th February 2007, 13:56

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And what happened to the Mercedes bio-diesel project. They have had a C class running on bio-diesel for years now

Good job but not the first in India.
Mercedes has been running Biodiesel C class in India for quite some time.
Only difference between that and normal C class.. Some plastic bits in the fuel system are changed so that they don't get corroded. Recently this merc went on a golden GQ trip along with almost the entire Mercedes range with some Auto Journalists, autocar has the details.

sajo · 8th February 2007, 14:17

Its nothing new, since Tata has been running several biodiesel buses in Pune for its employees for a long time now. I also regularly see the biodiesel C-class in my area.

kkr2k2 · 8th February 2007, 15:09

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Originally Posted by sajo

Its nothing new, since Tata has been running several biodiesel buses in Pune for its employees for a long time now. I also regularly see the biodiesel C-class in my area.

Around a year ago, i have seen a tata indigo, which had vinyls all around it, displaying proudly that it runs on bio-deisel. It also had a phone number to call for further details, I took the number in a pocket book and forgot about it till today. I will try to find that book and them, what its all about.

chanapli · 8th February 2007, 15:29

what I remember reading some news papper sometime ago, is you can use bio-diesel with little or no modification to existing diesel engines. (not sure about bio - fossil mix percentage)

does that hold good still?. If then why there is a Bio-Diesel version ?.

theMAG · 8th February 2007, 15:45

Good initiative. Altho I honestly doubt, behind the PR hype, oil companies will allow such a thing to take off

tsk1979 · 8th February 2007, 15:55

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Originally Posted by chanapli

what I remember reading some news papper sometime ago, is you can use bio-diesel with little or no modification to existing diesel engines. (not sure about bio - fossil mix percentage)

does that hold good still?. If then why there is a Bio-Diesel version ?.

Thats correct, no engine mods needed, but you need to use corossion resistant plastics in the fuel system as biodiesel is not rubber/plastic/O-ring friendly as far as the current crop of plastics in engines is concerned.
These are minor modifications, and can hardly be termed as mods.

chanapli · 9th February 2007, 10:18

Thanks tsk1979.

Wonder when will the bio-Diesel available to public. I know some of the depots of KSRTC already runs on Bio-Diesel. Also I have seen a plant between Hosur and Krishnagiri.

As theMag said, they will be some resistance from OIL companies. They have excess money to (distribute in politics) stop / delay alternate fuels.

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Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3,716	100% BD?!! Hmmm... now that sounds like some serious business. Best of them run on 40%. What is "real world trials"? Hope they are not trying to make guinea pigs out of their customers. __________________ Announcements are important. Read the Advertising Announcement here. Classifieds section has its rules. Read here

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amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,238 Infractions: 0/1 (8)	Haven't they launched the Scorpio bio-diesel for regular sales? Which fuel pumps sell bio-diesels? And what happened to the Mercedes bio-diesel project. They have had a C class running on bio-diesel for years now. __________________ Have you ever noticed that everybody driving slower then you is an idiot and everybody going faster then you is a maniac?

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benbsb29 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bans-galore Posts: 3,632 View My Garage	We really should applaud M&M for taking the initiative to develop such projects. Looks like the success of the Scorpio has done for them what the Pulsar has done for Bajaj..... the drive towards innovation. __________________ "You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you." - Eric Hoffer

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sidharth_j BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 102	Mahindra seems to be quite involved in the alternative fuels development, with their Scorpio hybrid, and now this, the bio-diesel Scorpio. It is nice to see an Indian Manufacturer take concrete steps to bring such vehicles into the market place....hopefully our govt will lend them a helping hand by way of tax cuts/exemptions on such initiatives.

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Prithvi BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 168	Wow! THis is great from M&M. When do these come on the road. I am waiting for the new Scorpio. Does anyone have news when its out? The hybrid Scorpio sounds interesting. Hope they launch it soon too.

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sajo BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune/Memphis Posts: 970	Its nothing new, since Tata has been running several biodiesel buses in Pune for its employees for a long time now. I also regularly see the biodiesel C-class in my area. __________________ Its big, slow, thirsty and American - but love is strange!

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chanapli BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Banglaore Posts: 264	what I remember reading some news papper sometime ago, is you can use bio-diesel with little or no modification to existing diesel engines. (not sure about bio - fossil mix percentage) does that hold good still?. If then why there is a Bio-Diesel version ?.

8th February 2007, 15:45	#13 (permalink)
theMAG Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bengalooru Posts: 4,577 View My Garage	Good initiative. Altho I honestly doubt, behind the PR hype, oil companies will allow such a thing to take off __________________ If I hold a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

9th February 2007, 10:18	#15 (permalink)
chanapli BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Banglaore Posts: 264	Thanks tsk1979. Wonder when will the bio-Diesel available to public. I know some of the depots of KSRTC already runs on Bio-Diesel. Also I have seen a plant between Hosur and Krishnagiri. As theMag said, they will be some resistance from OIL companies. They have excess money to (distribute in politics) stop / delay alternate fuels.

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