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View Poll Results: Which is the safest hatchback?
Palio 122 49.80%
U-VA 3 1.22%
Santro 3 1.22%
Getz 12 4.90%
800 3 1.22%
Alto 1 0.41%
Estilo 0 0%
Wagon R 0 0%
Swift 85 34.69%
Indica 16 6.53%
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Old 23rd March 2007, 11:32   #106
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I can't believe it! a whopping 50% (49.8) of voters say that Palio is still the safest hatchback! And this is year 2007.

Long live Palio...! and congrats to all of its proud owners.
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I can't believe it! a whopping 50% (49.8) of voters say that Palio is still the safest hatchback! And this is year 2007.

Long live Palio...! and congrats to all of its proud owners.
That may be so. Unfortunately all I can see is gut feel and no hard data.

BTW, I am a Petra owner, absolutely love my car, but have voted Swift ZXi mainly because it has the option of ABS.
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Old 23rd March 2007, 16:40   #108
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Type0, in Accidents like Head-on collisions, it is the Build Quality of a Car that saves lives!
And not merely ABS!
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Old 23rd March 2007, 16:58   #109
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Type0, in Accidents like Head-on collisions, it is the Build Quality of a Car that saves lives!
And not merely ABS!
But ABS can possibly prevent certain accidents happening in the first place.
I tend to agree with type0 here. There is no data available on the safety parameters of cars sold in India and we are going by the gut feel here.
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Type0, in Accidents like Head-on collisions, it is the Build Quality of a Car that saves lives!
And not merely ABS!
Not really. A 'light' Japanese car can be as safe as a heavy 'European' car if it is correctly engineered - the front crumple zones absorbing most of the impact and protecting the occupants - sacrificing the car of course. If the car is merely heavy - no crumple zones etc - it will transmit most of the shock of impact to the drivers and other occupants making up for a very dicey situation indeed. Now that being said, the Swift is not the typical lightweight Suzuki a la the M800, Alto etc. So it has good 'build quality' too. It may have lesser 'build quality' (a point I do not agree with - I think it is as good) than the Palio in that it does not seem heavier, but it is certainly up there.

I am not saying that the Palio is badly engineered, but now that the Swift is closing in on the weight sweepstakes, the ABS and airbag options take the game away. Once upon a time the Palio was the leader of the pack. Now unfortunately, the company no longer offers these safety features - otherwise I would have closed my eyes and voted Palio.
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safest hatch...has to be the swift ZXi....
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TypeO and Deepak, Please test crash both these cars (Palio and Swift) and see it for yourself!
OR just see the testimonials of Palio owners in Mouthshut.com etc, who met very serious accidents but they escaped unscathed!

I don't want to prove it to anyone!
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TypeO and Deepak, Please test crash both these cars (Palio and Swift) and see it for yourself!
OR just see the testimonials of Palio owners in Mouthshut.com etc, who met very serious accidents but they escaped unscathed!

I don't want to prove it to anyone!
Ahhh ... finney ... in that case we would wait for two things to happen -

1. The Swift owners to write their feedback after their accidents
2. Either I / Deepak have a head-on encounter of the worst kind

I don't think any one of these options are desirable. Also I am also not too inclined to test crash my car (I think Deepak will share the same opinion). Neither do I have the money or the time to test crash a Swift. In that case let us leave it at that.
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Old 23rd March 2007, 20:39   #114
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Palio is safer than Swift for sure! I have seen many examples.

Swift is just better among all Maruti dabba cars!

Here what I mean is Maruti lacks in safety and quality, thats 100% prooved by now! so I term Maruti cars as dabba for safety reason.

Lookwise its Swift, FE its Swift, resale value its Swift.

I owned Swift for 10 months only thing I liked about Swift is its resale value! nothing else.

Palio rocks except for resale value.

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- the front crumple zones absorbing most of the impact and protecting the occupants
Was demonstrated in a Top (or fifth?) gear crash test between Old Landrover and new Renault Espace. Proved that cars with better crumple zone protects occupants far better!
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i guess now the discussion is over feeling of safety vs safety by design. heavy doesnt really mean safer, but yes feeling of safety and confidence will be there

latest design i guess is Uva so i should place my bet there now or maybe check the ratings
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Last month I saw a Santro car had hit electirc post late night in south b'lore. Heard the chap got out alive. Cars front was badly damaged but, passenger cabin no deformation. Hope he was wearing the seat belts.

Next, When i had been to mandovi wilson garden body repair shop for tinkering on my 800, I saw a swift which had rammed into a poll or something, .. car's font end was badly damaged... there was this huge intrusion into the engine compartment the width of electric poll full length vertical. But strangely even the front glass was intact and no damage in the passenger cabin.

So All I can say is these cars have very good crumple zones and minimize passenger injury. How safe is passenger, a lot of it depends upon whether they are wearing the seat belts at that time. It's proven many many times that wearing seat belts saves lives.

Unfortunately I don't have any experiences with Palio so cannot comment.
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Was demonstrated in a Top (or fifth?) gear crash test between Old Landrover and new Renault Espace. Proved that cars with better crumple zone protects occupants far better!
That was in Fifth gear. Top gear guys prefer to ram a Renault Espace in a train
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The replies kind of not go hand-in-hand with the votes in this thread...
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...re-voting.html

So take it with a pinch of salt.
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