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Old 22nd February 2007, 03:28   #16
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rr_zen, do you think that india could change in 8 years ??? no 8 months ??? dream on, pal. nothing has changed here in chennai, except that mosquitoes have been replaced by a higher pedigreed species of the same. the stupid share autos continue to ply & will keep plying for another 100 years surely until all the politicians who gave those licences pass away or some sense prevails. do you know the cost of a Share Auto license ?? it has crossed 2.5L now. The cost of the contraption is lesser. God bless chennai.
@esteem_lover: Please dont curse me if have been expecting a bit too much out of Chennai or India !! I was surviving on a thin line of hope that my expectations could be true when I came back to good old chennai. Now, I accept reality.
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Old 22nd February 2007, 13:28   #17
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Most unsafe vehicles in India:
1) All two wheelers
2) Autorikshaws
3) DVD Musical thunder buses which are driven at breakneck speeds.
4) Omni/M800, Alto, Reva
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Old 22nd February 2007, 14:00   #18
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I dont think all two wheelers are unsafe on our roads. Big bikes (in Indian sense) from 150CC and above have good handling, braking, comfort, etc. The perception of them being unsafe is due to the riders than the vehicles. They need to be used for the intended purposes and not misused by way of overloading, overspeeding etc.
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Old 22nd February 2007, 14:17   #19
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The govt should make it mandatory to get all gov't owned vehicles checked from time to time . Secondly they should ban all trucks which do nt meet the emission Std's also there should be a lifeline given for trucks and buses which carry people or heavy loads with them. All school buses should be NEW (No 2nd Hand ones ). I have see that majority of school buses are used once which come out to pick school children after getting some paintings done.....They are mostly disposed buses in other states. Also all Auroriksha's should be banned from carrying school children...They school authorities can think abt the Swaraj Mazda which is a perfect bus for school pick-up and drop...
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Old 22nd February 2007, 15:39   #20
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Is'nt the driver who makes the situation safe/ unsafe?.
Well said, chanapli. All BTS bus drivers in Bangalore are cold blooded murderers..

Speaking of unsafe vehicles, I think its gotta be the Sumo.
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Old 22nd February 2007, 20:35   #21
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after the scorpio incident, i think it has to be the car that rips into two..... had heard and seen pics of a 118 ne many years ago which slammed sideways into a lamp post on worli seaface and split into two. I think mahindra need to do a lot of R&D as what they have already done is definately not enough.
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Old 22nd February 2007, 21:19   #22
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I dont think all two wheelers are unsafe on our roads. Big bikes (in Indian sense) from 150CC and above have good handling, braking, comfort, etc. The perception of them being unsafe is due to the riders than the vehicles. They need to be used for the intended purposes and not misused by way of overloading, overspeeding etc.
Is an average two-wheeler safer than, or even comparable to an average closed cabin 4-wheeler? No sir! Two wheelers are unsafe, anytime, everytime!
Why?
Because of
Our dusty roads with their unanticipatable potholes, debris and open drains that call for panic weaving and braking.
Our careless heavy vehicle drivers -- the heavier the vehicle, the more the carelessness.
Our cops who are totally non-existent when they are needed the most.

Handling, braking, comfort of two-wheelers don't matter one bit. An incident invariably leads to severe lacerations, bleeding, broken limbs and even death.
A dazed, injured or unconscious rider knocked out of the rat-race on the roadside becomes more of a sight for curious apathetic bystanders, than good samaritans.

Then our hap-hazard hospital casualty wards (emergency rooms) are not up to it either.
They are often dangerously ill-equipped and badly located.
We have no antiseptic/disinfection standards for ambulances in our country.
Then there is our hap-hazard law that gives more importance to police registration of an accident than to timely life-saving treatment.

Given our conditions, it often happens that:
Those that recover are physically fit youth that would have healed anyway.
And sometimes those that die could have been saved had we had more responsible medical care.

Bottom line: In our nation, two-wheelers are unsafe, anytime, everytime!
Every ride on a two-wheeler that ends safely is one more miracle, by the grace of the Almighty.
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Old 23rd February 2007, 12:21   #23
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Well said Ram, couldn't agree more. I always feel that there is no two wheeler which starts off and reaches safely. It just escapes all the chances of being knocked off and reaches the destination. In the process of escaping, it created more chances for others. So i feel its a process of continuous creation of chances of accidents and avoiding/escaping some which are created by others and self.
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Old 23rd February 2007, 13:32   #24
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Speaking of unsafe vehicles, I think its gotta be the Sumo.
Not SUMO. But, its the drivers of SUMOS, who r least concerned about the vehicle's dimensions.
SUMO is a pretty solid vehicle , much stronger than QUALIS/. INNOVA
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That suddenly reminded me of the jeep drivers in the hilly regions of Kerala where they sit with half of their back side literally outside, making space for atleast 4-5 passengers in front. The guy next to the driver would literally be sitting where the driver should be sitting.... behind the wheel
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That suddenly reminded me of the jeep drivers in the hilly regions of Kerala where they sit with half of their back side literally outside, making space for atleast 4-5 passengers in front. The guy next to the driver would literally be sitting where the driver should be sitting.... behind the wheel

Agree to that jacob, but they hardly ply on the main roads. These jeeps are used only to carry people from the bottom of a hill to the top, like in kumily, Kattapanna, Ramakalmeed etc..And at times its reqd to even make people sit on the front bumper to balance the jeep when they climb steep hills with the 4WD engaged, so its more of balancing act rather than reckless driving !!
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Old 23rd February 2007, 19:23   #27
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The list of different unsafe vehicles or anything that moves on Indian roads is too big for this page. No one seems to care about the thousands of lives lost on our roads every year. We have come to view it as some sort of 'process of natural elimination' from our billion strong population.

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" Looks citizens, we can't give you a better life or even a safe life. We can't guarantee that you will reach your home in the evening alive. We are throwing big money to your kith and kin after you die due to our negligence and disinterest in improving living conditions. Take the money and dont expect your lives to be any safer".
I second that...its almost like the government has come to accept it, and so have we. The laws are so inadequate and antiquated that it makes it difficult to even think of saving a life if you see someone dying on our roads! Why bother, when the government can use the taxpayers money to pay off the grieving families?!

In such a situation, do the best you can..drive safe, respect rules, buy safe cars, anticipate and have fun while you are at it!
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Old 23rd February 2007, 19:54   #28
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all vehicles have some flaws and even after knowing what the vehicle is capable of we have some who will push to max limits.

so it all depends on the NUT behind the wheel

drive a Sumo, Omni bus truck like a saloon car and the consequences are evident.
ride a bike like Valentino with twisties and with No Head Gear you know the result.

finally the most unsafe vehicles are the Ones with ABS, EBD, HICAS, AWD as in this case the DRIVERS of such vehicles make the vehicle unsafe.
Its a psychological factor of a human behind modern cars with all controls to speed to max and then the delay in braking and eventual crash.

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Old 24th February 2007, 08:50   #29
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In India nothing is safe! Most unsafe vehicles: Bikes, M800, Omni, Alto.

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Old 24th February 2007, 09:13   #30
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what makes the vehicle really unsafe is the guy sittin in the drivers seat...you could end up becoming pulp even in a benz or a saab............
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