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Old 19th April 2007, 22:39   #31
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i read an article in hindustan times yesterday 18th april. HindustanTimes ePaper
the article was about the tinted glass cases..
about how many challans have been made i so so days...
but when i saw a line said by a deputy commissioner "the high court has prohibited the use of dark films on vehicles.there should be 70 % visibility on the front and rear and 50% visibility on the sides. most cars come wiht the permissible limit of tint on the glasses" said H.P.S virk, deputy commissioner of police, traffic (northern range)...
i was really happy and confused as so i have rto approved 3m tints on my car.... but many of my friends say that no films are allowed...
and after the case of no tint arrest i read in times of india... man what does these cops want from us??
inka hisab kitab to britannia 50/50 jaisa ho gaya hai!!!
if the mood is good you are free to go...
if the constable or the inspector incharge had a good quarrel with his wife in the morning then probabaly this line "sahab kuch kharcha paani?...

can somebody give me any specific news about the rto approved tints or else i ahve to go and get my films removed!!
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Old 19th April 2007, 23:08   #32
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the high court of delhi forbids ALL types of sun films.
however the MVA allows tinted glasses upto 70% visibility of front and rear windscreens and 50% visibility on side windows.
hypocritical as hell?
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can somebody give me any specific news about the rto approved tints or else i ahve to go and get my films removed!!
Everything's banned no tints allowed from now on....
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...-hc-delhi.html
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Old 19th April 2007, 23:29   #34
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The HC order says No Film. IT may be 0% film, the rule is no film.
Along with that you have MVA which says 50% visibility on sides and 70% on front.
No car in the world comes, or can come with 100% clear glass. Its physics. So as long as your glass appears to pass most of the light through you are clear. LAw says 70% but in the end its your bargain skill with the policeman, which matters, not the law.
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With the new rules in place I saw the funniest thing in a long time yesterday.

Was waiting on the red light just before Escorts and noticed 3 traffic policemen waiting there. Then saw from the other side of the road a gentleman on his Honda Activa was very coolly jumping a red light, while riding without a helmet & happily chatting away on his mobile!!!!! The look on the faces of the "Thullas" on seeing this guy was priceless!!!!

They immdiately pounced on him & took away his scooter keys so he couldn't escape!! They must have had a field day with him I guess, I just drove away then laughing my @ss off
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I have films on my car but thankfully have'nt been caught yet.

Lets see how much more can I escape.

I know people who have more than 1 car and have stopped using their cars with film altogether. They think this strictness is only for a month and then again it would be "sab chalta hai"

also it would be commendable if cops stand in the hot sun of May and June to challan people.
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The MVA Law on Tints and Permissable limit is no longer applicable in Delhi, The Honourable Delhi HC has released a special judicial Act under which certain ammendments are made specifically applicable to Delhi.

You can however have OEM Manufacture Tint Glass from your Car company-But this should be under the permissable limit of 70 %.

If you have any kind of Film over the glass to create a Tint,Then you will be challaned under the new guidelines.

So in short, No Kind of Tint Film on glass allowed for all vehicles plying in delhi. You may be lucky if your Car manufacture provided Tint in the glass itself.

@Compenn, Its because of people like these that these laws have become stricter, Why can't the law be followed simply-do anything under the legal guidelines. BTW I don't think this will bogg down since its a HC act passed and a Judicial comittee will be in place for a review meeting every quarter.

The Money collected will be used for developing the Road Infrastructure in Delhi to gear up for the commonwealth games. With the Super Budget launched by Congress goverment in Delhi-They need to source all these funds from the Common man..!

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This is a bit surprising. If the permissible limit is 70%, why not allow films with 70% visibility? What about people driving into Delhi for short trips from outside where films are allowed? How do they measure visibility? Do they have some meter to do this? This is important in other places where films are allowed. How do we prove that the film that we have used meets the visibility criterion? I think the visibility percentage is printed on the films.

What I read about music systems in the newspapers was that the music played in the car should not be too loud. Again how are they going to measure this? When somone is flagged down, the person will obviously switch off his ICE or at least lower the volume levels.

I support bigger penalties which should act as a deterrent to most people. If you are already following the traffic rules, it really does not matter so much. Besides when you follow the traffic rules, you are setting an example to those travelling with you, especially if you have children with you. That may have a more positive impact than everything else.

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What about people driving into Delhi for short trips from outside where films are allowed? -Biju
I would also like to know the answer to Biju's question. how about people driving into Delhi for short trips. One of my friend who belongs to Chandigarh has a chandigarh registered Indigo stays in Delhi for Work and goes home on weekends. Would he be allowed to keep the tints??
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Nope, out of state or in state, if your car has film, cops will fine you 600 and use a blade to take off your film
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Nope, out of state or in state, if your car has film, cops will fine you 600 and use a blade to take off your film
But this law is applicable only to Delhi? Why should people coming to Delhi for short trips suffer?

Lets all T-BHPians start a business remote controlled removable sun films. What say?
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Don't ask me. It seems the same dude who passed this order was at chd before. He passed a similar order there too.
Seems to be some kind of sadist.
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As far as I know, the RTO approved sunfilms with 70% visibility are now acceptable.

TOI Delhi Edition - 19th April, 3rd Page

Section : Tint still a grey area | Challan Issued Despite Adherence To Shade Limit

"Joint commissioner of police (traffic), Qamar Ahmed, said that while all films on glasses have been banned, the earlier law of 70% transparency holds. By that logic, if the glasses of a car have more than 30% tint — even if it is without a film — it is illegal."


Increase in penalty fines are a welcome change, and would definitely bring some sense in motorists.

Following are the major problematic issues that still needs to be resolved and quickly :
  1. Defunct RTO licensing system. Almost anyone without any driving skills can get a license. Drivers who are unaware about the laws and illiterate motorists who care less about the road signages are irritants. Unless we have stringent licensing issuance policy, nuisance would prevail, no matter how high the penalty charges.
  2. Enforcing lane driving would bring down the number of accidents. People just don't have clue where to drive at what speeds. More often than not, the lane meant for high-speed traffic is usually occupied by a slow moving vehicle.
  3. Dedicated roads for the vehicle type with segregation of heavy vehicular traffic (trucks, buses and tempos), street traffic (cars and bikes) and slow moving traffic (cycles, rickshaws and cart hawkers).
  4. Giving incentive to the cops with each fine - for example some percentage of a fine fee added to the salary would keep them away from dishonest means of earning quick bucks.

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Enforcing lane driving would bring down the number of accidents. People just don't have clue where to drive at what speeds. More often than not, the lane meant for high-speed traffic is usually occupied by a slow moving vehicle.

I completely agree that slow moving traffic occupies the rightmost lane in which case I overtake them from left come in their lane and drive evn slower than them forcing them to change to left lane. Once they change lanes I drive out of their sight.

But to force such heavy fines on Delhites are not justified because

1. Roads in the city are not in perfect condition. Tell me this if you are driving fast in the rightmost lane and suddeny u see a big pothole in your lane would you change lanes or keep moving on the right side. [this is 1 of the cases between Dhaulakuan and NH8 strecth)

2. Do you believe timimg of red lights in Delhi is as per the traffic i.e if the traffic is light or heavy [example IIT gate red light]

3.Do PCR vans in Delhi follow all the rules, when they are not going for an emergency [I understand somebody else breaking rules does not mean I should break, but law adherence should start from law makers]

4. Do cops on 2 wheelers follow all traffic rules [read helmet]

5. Do you sincerely believe that fine money collected would be used for betterment of Delhi? [I hope you know where that money would go]
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UPDATE:

These fines have gone back to old rates courtesy a PIL. So, its back to 100 for red light, 400 for speeding from 600,1100 respectively.

A colleague had got a speeding challan by mail. He went to rohini where touts offered to get it done for him in 600. suspicious, he waited in queue. the judge told him at his turn that the fines have reduced, courtesy hon'ble Delhi HC. Funnily, some of us would be paying the inflated rates on the roads even today.

Caveat Driver!!

Below is the pic of the challan

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