Esteem production stopped???? - Team-BHP

v12 · 2nd March 2004, 10:57

Hi guys,
My neighbour went to book a Maruti Esteem last week. The dealer told him not to book one cos Maruti is getting the "new look" Esteem. He said MUL has stopped production of the Esteem. Can anyone confirm this?? If its confirmed, then whats the "new look" Esteem??? Is it the Liana[99% otherwise they wudnt stop Esteem production]

? Or is it the same old Esteem with some cosmetic changes???

Dippy · 2nd March 2004, 11:32

Hmm thats an interesting piece of news. I feel Esteem production wont be stopped. It might be looking dated now but it still sells in good numbers and the amazing engine and slick gearbox is second to none and add the peace of mind that Maruti gives you with their service network. I guess what he meant was that maybe production of the current Esteem is stopped. Maybe its getting a make over like the Zen.

Lets wait and watch

Cheers

Shan2nu · 2nd March 2004, 14:05

Interesting, wonder what the new Esteem will look like.

Regards...
Shan2nu

ajmat · 2nd March 2004, 14:09

Why can't they kill it ? Honda had the guts to phse out a successful model and bring in a new model. They should can the baleno also and bring out the Liana in various specs. Thry will get volumes at lower unit costs

Shan2nu · 2nd March 2004, 14:12

Both the Esteem and Baleno look outdated. High time they replaced them.

Regards...
Shan2nu

Dippy · 2nd March 2004, 15:07

I guess the best car to bring in at this time would be the Ignis. Its a good car I just wonder how they will price it

Cheers

GTO · 2nd March 2004, 16:08

The Esteem may have a relatively older chassis and all that butttttttttttttttt it does make immense sense for someone whos stretching his budget to accomodate a mid-sizer in his family. Its lightning fast, very fuel efficient, absolutely zero maintenance (my 130,000 km esteem will vouch for that) and a load of fun to drive.

Its all a matter of relevance to the market demands. Maruti must discontinue it only if they can replace it with an appropriate model.

GTO

Revvmaster · 2nd March 2004, 20:13

Hey V12. Maruti did hint that it would be facelifting the Esteem when it launched the facelifted Zen and indicated a March/April timing. I doubt though that it is the Liana, but if one goes to see current Baleno pricing, the point of having an Esteem over a Baleno is getting meaningless. I guess this is Maruti's policy. Take on Indigo with Esteem, Ikon/Accent with Baleno and Optra, City with the upcoming Liana. Hope my prediction is right.

normally_crazy · 2nd March 2004, 21:00

hi guys ,

esteem production isnt being stopped atleast not in the near future. i an say this coz we are a major oem supplier to mul in the rubber components division and we get the intimation whether a particular model's production is being stopped . no such info yet, maybe a face lifted esteem on the way.

cheers

GTO · 2nd March 2004, 22:26

Think about it,

Maruti sells a Zen for close to 4 lacs and Esteems from 4.75 to 5.75 lacs. Both these models are over a decade old now, almost totally localised and their production lineage must be 100% depreciated by now.

If you see the stock price of Maruti shooting up so much, just think about what margins these two models must be providing Maruti with.

GTO

v12 · 2nd March 2004, 22:29

The Ignis is just a redesigned Wagon R. The question is where will they fit in the Ignis?

The best replacement for the Esteem is a "Baleno-powered" Liana.

Dippy · 3rd March 2004, 00:31

I really dont think they should replace the Esteem. Its a proven work horse and still works well with everyone. A new design with an option of a 1.6 engine maybe from the Baleno should do the trick . I fewel the Esteem in its current avtaar looks any day better than the Baleno...

Cheers

Aditya · 3rd March 2004, 01:04

If Maruti are planning to upgrade the Esteem, most of us would want the changes to be more than just cosmetic. Yes, the 1.6L Baleno engine would be great, but that means a better suspension, bigger brakes and many other changes. All these tweaks will lift the cost. Will people be ready to bear this extra cost for a really old car? Or is Maruti gonna forget about brakes and handling the way Mahindra did with the Scorpio?

_Crazi4Speed_ · 3rd March 2004, 04:14

I dont know if this is a very well known fact, but baleno is nothing but a scan..its a new generation esteem..it is badged esteem every where i have seen..

L8r

Dippy · 3rd March 2004, 11:47

If Maruti doese go ahead with a new designed Esteem I hope they do a better job than they did on the Zen . The old Zen still looks clssier than the new one . I hope that after the new Esteem comes out it should look better than the out going one

Cheers

2nd March 2004, 10:57	#1 (permalink)
v12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,893 View My Garage	Hi guys, My neighbour went to book a Maruti Esteem last week. The dealer told him not to book one cos Maruti is getting the "new look" Esteem. He said MUL has stopped production of the Esteem. Can anyone confirm this?? If its confirmed, then whats the "new look" Esteem??? Is it the Liana[99% otherwise they wudnt stop Esteem production]? Or is it the same old Esteem with some cosmetic changes??? __________________ Enfield Cafe Racer completed. Yamaha Cafe Racer started.

2nd March 2004, 11:32	#2 (permalink)
Dippy Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 4,926 View My Garage	Hmm thats an interesting piece of news. I feel Esteem production wont be stopped. It might be looking dated now but it still sells in good numbers and the amazing engine and slick gearbox is second to none and add the peace of mind that Maruti gives you with their service network. I guess what he meant was that maybe production of the current Esteem is stopped. Maybe its getting a make over like the Zen. Lets wait and watch Cheers __________________ My name is Adrian Sutil. You can call me ADDY - Force India dippy@team-bhp.com

2nd March 2004, 14:05	#3 (permalink)
Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli/Blore - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,217 View My Garage	Interesting, wonder what the new Esteem will look like. Regards... Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE

2nd March 2004, 14:09	#4 (permalink)
ajmat Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,224 View My Garage	Why can't they kill it ? Honda had the guts to phse out a successful model and bring in a new model. They should can the baleno also and bring out the Liana in various specs. Thry will get volumes at lower unit costs __________________ I love the whoosh, but i miss the bellowing

2nd March 2004, 14:12	#5 (permalink)
Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli/Blore - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,217 View My Garage	Both the Esteem and Baleno look outdated. High time they replaced them. Regards... Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE

2nd March 2004, 15:07	#6 (permalink)
Dippy Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 4,926 View My Garage	I guess the best car to bring in at this time would be the Ignis. Its a good car I just wonder how they will price it Cheers __________________ My name is Adrian Sutil. You can call me ADDY - Force India dippy@team-bhp.com

2nd March 2004, 16:08	#7 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	The Esteem may have a relatively older chassis and all that butttttttttttttttt it does make immense sense for someone whos stretching his budget to accomodate a mid-sizer in his family. Its lightning fast, very fuel efficient, absolutely zero maintenance (my 130,000 km esteem will vouch for that) and a load of fun to drive. Its all a matter of relevance to the market demands. Maruti must discontinue it only if they can replace it with an appropriate model. GTO __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

2nd March 2004, 20:13	#8 (permalink)
Revvmaster BANNED Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,213	Hey V12. Maruti did hint that it would be facelifting the Esteem when it launched the facelifted Zen and indicated a March/April timing. I doubt though that it is the Liana, but if one goes to see current Baleno pricing, the point of having an Esteem over a Baleno is getting meaningless. I guess this is Maruti's policy. Take on Indigo with Esteem, Ikon/Accent with Baleno and Optra, City with the upcoming Liana. Hope my prediction is right.

2nd March 2004, 21:00	#9 (permalink)
normally_crazy Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,707 View My Garage	hi guys , esteem production isnt being stopped atleast not in the near future. i an say this coz we are a major oem supplier to mul in the rubber components division and we get the intimation whether a particular model's production is being stopped . no such info yet, maybe a face lifted esteem on the way. cheers

2nd March 2004, 22:26	#10 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	Think about it, Maruti sells a Zen for close to 4 lacs and Esteems from 4.75 to 5.75 lacs. Both these models are over a decade old now, almost totally localised and their production lineage must be 100% depreciated by now. If you see the stock price of Maruti shooting up so much, just think about what margins these two models must be providing Maruti with. GTO __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

2nd March 2004, 22:29	#11 (permalink)
v12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,893 View My Garage	The Ignis is just a redesigned Wagon R. The question is where will they fit in the Ignis? The best replacement for the Esteem is a "Baleno-powered" Liana. __________________ Enfield Cafe Racer completed. Yamaha Cafe Racer started.

3rd March 2004, 00:31	#12 (permalink)
Dippy Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 4,926 View My Garage	I really dont think they should replace the Esteem. Its a proven work horse and still works well with everyone. A new design with an option of a 1.6 engine maybe from the Baleno should do the trick . I fewel the Esteem in its current avtaar looks any day better than the Baleno... Cheers __________________ My name is Adrian Sutil. You can call me ADDY - Force India dippy@team-bhp.com

3rd March 2004, 01:04	#13 (permalink)
Aditya Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,835 View My Garage	If Maruti are planning to upgrade the Esteem, most of us would want the changes to be more than just cosmetic. Yes, the 1.6L Baleno engine would be great, but that means a better suspension, bigger brakes and many other changes. All these tweaks will lift the cost. Will people be ready to bear this extra cost for a really old car? Or is Maruti gonna forget about brakes and handling the way Mahindra did with the Scorpio? __________________ MH 01 T 1476 - Here we go again!!!

3rd March 2004, 04:14	#14 (permalink)
_Crazi4Speed_ BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Shuffling between chicago and delhi Posts: 778	I dont know if this is a very well known fact, but baleno is nothing but a scan..its a new generation esteem..it is badged esteem every where i have seen.. L8r __________________ _Crazi4Speed_ Dont dress for the position you are at, dress for the position you want to be in... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../615498_35.gif

3rd March 2004, 11:47	#15 (permalink)
Dippy Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 4,926 View My Garage	If Maruti doese go ahead with a new designed Esteem I hope they do a better job than they did on the Zen . The old Zen still looks clssier than the new one . I hope that after the new Esteem comes out it should look better than the out going one Cheers __________________ My name is Adrian Sutil. You can call me ADDY - Force India dippy@team-bhp.com

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