New Honda City VTEC is here - Team-BHP

GTO · 15th March 2004, 21:56

Alright Vtec-addicts, I am pretty certain that like me, you dont like the shape of the new Honda City either. Whats more, enthusiasts were driven away by the lack of sheer horses in the new Honda City. Indian journalists have moaned about the loss of an exhilerating driving experience vis a vis the old Honda City.

Butttttttttttttttttttt my sources at Ichibaan Honda tell me that the new Honda City with a Vtec engine is but a few weeks away. The thailand spec model churns out 103 bhp (107 PS), so expect its Indian sister to be slightly detuned to accomodate Indian fuel conditions. The older Honda City Vtec enjoys a power to weight ratio of 107 bhp/ton, but the new City Vtec will be able to match only a 89 bhp/ton. The older Vtec tips the scales at 985 kg, while the newer City Vtec (thailand) does so at 1065 kg. Also the older Vtec was detuned by apprx 8% (115bhp t0 106), thus I have calculated the new City Vtecs Indian variant at 95 bhp.

Conclusion - We are comparing 107.6bhp/ton versus 89bhp/ton. Do I hear the enthusiasts whine a little bit louder?

Ouch Honda, when are you getting us the Civic Vtec?

GTO

Have a look at the new city Vtec here!!

GTO · 15th March 2004, 22:00

Wait a minute, if the New Honda City Vtec will manage a power to weight ratio of only 89bhp/ton, what about the current new Honda City?

A depressingly low 74bhp/ton...

GTO

RJK · 15th March 2004, 23:28

my stock honda 1.5 has more power than this new Vtec

...I love my car !!

Dippy · 16th March 2004, 00:02

I agree Rags. But it will be intersting to see how this car performs though I know the older Vtec is in a different league

Cheers

GTO · 16th March 2004, 20:19

Dippy,

Though this car may outperform the current 1.5 NEW city, I dont think it will be a patch on cars like the older City (vtec included), Optra, Ikon......or wait, maybe even the Esteem Mpfi (really a drag race king for the price).

Why would anyone pay 75000 over the current NEW city, when they arent getting performance from either of the options? Rather save your 75000 Vtec money and be slow anyways

GTO

Shan2nu · 16th March 2004, 20:32

I'm not really impressed with Honda's descission on this. The Vtec engine won't make any difference in the NHC body shell.

Even if the NHC was to have a 106bhp Vtec engine, i doubt if it would be able to keep up with the older 1.5 non Vtec.

But getting an I-Vtec engine might solve that problem to a certain extent. You'll have quicker response at even low rpms which will help the NHC in roll-ons and acceleration.

Regards...
Shan2nu

ported_head · 16th March 2004, 20:32

the city just keeps getting worse...the only part i do like about the new city is that it has a ver slick..and i do mean really slick gear shift..one of the best ever.
as for the vtec..just buy the old one..going cheap nowadays

GTO · 16th March 2004, 21:42

PH,

I love the gearshift of the new city too!! Its among the best I have ever seen in India.

Whatever Honda has done with the new City, it sure has played the right cards (from the sales point of view). Its got superb interiors, awesome fuel economy and rides pretty well even on bad roads. The car is mighty spacious on the inside too.

The older City used to sell 800 odd units a month. The new city has been selling 2500 odd units per month.

That says it all

GTO

v12 · 16th March 2004, 23:07

ya i guess the old VTEC will be a better buy. If they are gettin the NHC VTEC , they should get a 2.0 L one. The new City is sellin cos of 2 reasons :
Mileage.
Its a Honda.

GTO · 17th March 2004, 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]ya i guess the old VTEC will be a better buy.

Oh boy V12, do I have some news for you...just wait until tommorow evening.

GTO

v12 · 17th March 2004, 10:23

u've bought a VTEC?

tell me tell me. i dont like to be kept waitin

Dippy · 17th March 2004, 11:36

GTO has bought a VTEC only thing is he has to get it home isnt it GTO??

Cheers

v12 · 17th March 2004, 12:56

wow. cool. what color. pls tell me its black. u plannin to do any mods.
hope to see u and shantanu race each other

Shan2nu · 17th March 2004, 14:46

Did someone say RACE?

??? I'm "ON"!!!!!!

So GTO.....when are you getting your Vtec to the H-D Bypass???

Regards...
Shan2nu

GTO · 17th March 2004, 21:18

LOL,

Just let me know the place and time pal....

GTO

15th March 2004, 21:56	#1 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	Alright Vtec-addicts, I am pretty certain that like me, you dont like the shape of the new Honda City either. Whats more, enthusiasts were driven away by the lack of sheer horses in the new Honda City. Indian journalists have moaned about the loss of an exhilerating driving experience vis a vis the old Honda City. Butttttttttttttttttttt my sources at Ichibaan Honda tell me that the new Honda City with a Vtec engine is but a few weeks away. The thailand spec model churns out 103 bhp (107 PS), so expect its Indian sister to be slightly detuned to accomodate Indian fuel conditions. The older Honda City Vtec enjoys a power to weight ratio of 107 bhp/ton, but the new City Vtec will be able to match only a 89 bhp/ton. The older Vtec tips the scales at 985 kg, while the newer City Vtec (thailand) does so at 1065 kg. Also the older Vtec was detuned by apprx 8% (115bhp t0 106), thus I have calculated the new City Vtecs Indian variant at 95 bhp. Conclusion - We are comparing 107.6bhp/ton versus 89bhp/ton. Do I hear the enthusiasts whine a little bit louder? Ouch Honda, when are you getting us the Civic Vtec? GTO Have a look at the new city Vtec here!! __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

15th March 2004, 22:00	#2 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	Wait a minute, if the New Honda City Vtec will manage a power to weight ratio of only 89bhp/ton, what about the current new Honda City? A depressingly low 74bhp/ton... GTO __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

15th March 2004, 23:28	#3 (permalink)
RJK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia,PA Posts: 896	my stock honda 1.5 has more power than this new Vtec ...I love my car !! __________________ '94 Mazda MX-6 My first car with my own money.

16th March 2004, 00:02	#4 (permalink)
Dippy Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 4,926 View My Garage	I agree Rags. But it will be intersting to see how this car performs though I know the older Vtec is in a different league Cheers __________________ My name is Adrian Sutil. You can call me ADDY - Force India dippy@team-bhp.com

16th March 2004, 20:19	#5 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	Dippy, Though this car may outperform the current 1.5 NEW city, I dont think it will be a patch on cars like the older City (vtec included), Optra, Ikon......or wait, maybe even the Esteem Mpfi (really a drag race king for the price). Why would anyone pay 75000 over the current NEW city, when they arent getting performance from either of the options? Rather save your 75000 Vtec money and be slow anyways GTO __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

16th March 2004, 20:32	#6 (permalink)
Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli/Blore - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,217 View My Garage	I'm not really impressed with Honda's descission on this. The Vtec engine won't make any difference in the NHC body shell. Even if the NHC was to have a 106bhp Vtec engine, i doubt if it would be able to keep up with the older 1.5 non Vtec. But getting an I-Vtec engine might solve that problem to a certain extent. You'll have quicker response at even low rpms which will help the NHC in roll-ons and acceleration. Regards... Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE

16th March 2004, 20:32	#7 (permalink)
ported_head Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 2,053	the city just keeps getting worse...the only part i do like about the new city is that it has a ver slick..and i do mean really slick gear shift..one of the best ever. as for the vtec..just buy the old one..going cheap nowadays __________________ Viffman still rides amongst us! Turbo Lover.

16th March 2004, 21:42	#8 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	PH, I love the gearshift of the new city too!! Its among the best I have ever seen in India. Whatever Honda has done with the new City, it sure has played the right cards (from the sales point of view). Its got superb interiors, awesome fuel economy and rides pretty well even on bad roads. The car is mighty spacious on the inside too. The older City used to sell 800 odd units a month. The new city has been selling 2500 odd units per month. That says it all GTO __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

16th March 2004, 23:07	#9 (permalink)
v12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,893 View My Garage	ya i guess the old VTEC will be a better buy. If they are gettin the NHC VTEC , they should get a 2.0 L one. The new City is sellin cos of 2 reasons : Mileage. Its a Honda. __________________ Enfield Cafe Racer completed. Yamaha Cafe Racer started.

17th March 2004, 10:23	#11 (permalink)
v12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,893 View My Garage	u've bought a VTEC? tell me tell me. i dont like to be kept waitin __________________ Enfield Cafe Racer completed. Yamaha Cafe Racer started.

17th March 2004, 11:36	#12 (permalink)
Dippy Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 4,926 View My Garage	GTO has bought a VTEC only thing is he has to get it home isnt it GTO?? Cheers __________________ My name is Adrian Sutil. You can call me ADDY - Force India dippy@team-bhp.com

17th March 2004, 12:56	#13 (permalink)
v12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,893 View My Garage	wow. cool. what color. pls tell me its black. u plannin to do any mods. hope to see u and shantanu race each other __________________ Enfield Cafe Racer completed. Yamaha Cafe Racer started.

17th March 2004, 14:46	#14 (permalink)
Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli/Blore - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,217 View My Garage	Did someone say RACE???? I'm "ON"!!!!!! So GTO.....when are you getting your Vtec to the H-D Bypass??? Regards... Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE

17th March 2004, 21:18	#15 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,190 View My Garage	LOL, Just let me know the place and time pal.... GTO __________________ GTO Self-imposed limits are the only type that exist. Break them....then, make it a habit. Exceed. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

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