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Old 23rd February 2009, 21:09   #406
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thanks to Sid my signature has changed again
And ya Sid i agree with you, judging by Linea's pricing and response Fiat has got(which am sure is more than they expected) we can expect Punto to be launched at reasonable price as well.
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Old 23rd February 2009, 21:19   #407
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Eagerly waiting for some interior pics of GP with specs.
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Eagerly waiting for some interior pics of GP with specs.
Luky your signature is voefully wrong. Its Iron thats the most common element on this planet. If you consider the earths crust then its Oxygen that has all other elements beaten by a long margin. Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe but not for long. Its not to offend you only to let you know.

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Old 23rd February 2009, 23:33   #409
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I do not think so as per the track record of FIAT it has not introduced any vehicle exclusive for Indian condition that is the reason it fails e.g. FE. here people will buy only those which are FE unlike FIAT cars (so far FIAT has not thought on this issue)

The reason why Palio was flop was because
1. Somebody managed to create an impression that Palios are fuel guzzlers (I dont know how true it is)
2. It could not expand its network out of major towns

Nobody cared that it was one of the safest cars of its time compared to M800 or Zen
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If it is the VGT, even at about 5l, it is a good deal. Let us hope that Fiat will pull it off with Punto.

The fact that someone at tbhp has seen the new Palio being tested indicates the possibility that Palio can go down market and cater to WagonR, i10 segment. Over there, if priced well, it can make some inroads.

All the plans on paper sound good, but I only hope that Fiat India has the wherewithals to do something better this time around.
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Well you know Imo the winds of change have started blowing,for eg. the Yamaha's and Fiat's of the world have started regaining lost territory(read market share) and it would'nt be long enough for our established 'Khiladi's' to notice that and pull up their socks and offer us quality and reliabilty at par.
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Also on fiat website I see only bravo..
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I dont see Grandepunto launched with better engines. They will be the same Linea engines without much work. I still see the car as good value.
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maximizing product value is th eonly way Fiat can win back customers. They lost the ground with the Palio and the likes and the Linea is a good direction forward. Even with similar specs as the Linea (read engine etc - get the options pack going) - the GP is absolute value in the 4.75-6 lakh segmnet. The driving characteristics are spot-on and with a good engine to boot the GP can leave behind the i20 biting the dust and even the Swift D lugging behind.

The only problem is whether Fiat can set a right prics for the GP. IMHO they do a much better job usually - much better than the Hyundai.
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The reason why Palio was flop was because
1. Somebody managed to create an impression that Palios are fuel guzzlers (I dont know how true it is)
2. It could not expand its network out of major towns

Nobody cared that it was one of the safest cars of its time compared to M800 or Zen
My 03 Palio 1.2 racked up an economy figure of around 8-9kmpl - city driving with A/C on 90% of the time. So they were fuel guzzlers. I think thats the reason Fiat later came out with the current 1.1 litre engine which is a de-tuned version of the 1.2. But Fiat had already dug its own grave by then. The A.S.S made matters worse.
But that thing is built like a tank. Recently we met with an accident near pune. My car skidded off the road at around 70 kmph, flew off a mound and landed in a ditch. We were wearing seat belts. Everybody walked out without a scratch. I will upload the pictures in a day or two in the Accidents forum.
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My 03 Palio 1.2 racked up an economy figure of around 8-9kmpl - city driving with A/C on 90% of the time. So they were fuel guzzlers. I think thats the reason Fiat later came out with the current 1.1 litre engine which is a de-tuned version of the 1.2. But Fiat had already dug its own grave by then. The A.S.S made matters worse.
But that thing is built like a tank. Recently we met with an accident near pune. My car skidded off the road at around 70 kmph, flew off a mound and landed in a ditch. We were wearing seat belts. Everybody walked out without a scratch. I will upload the pictures in a day or two in the Accidents forum.
How did it skid off the road at a speed of only 70, did you take a very sharp turn at that speed?
Check your tyres if there is too much of wear and get tyres of good grip.
Build quality or no build quality please dont take such dangerous risks.
Happy Motoring!

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How did it skid off the road at a speed of only 70, did you take a very sharp turn at that speed?
Check your tyres if there is too much of wear and get tyres of good grip.
Build quality or no build quality please dont take such dangerous risks.
Happy Motoring!

Cheers,
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Entirely my mistake actually. This happened on the road to Lavasa, a new township coming up about 50Kms from Pune. The road has a lots of twists and turns. I missed a sharp turn and went off.
Thanks for your concern though. I would say I have learnt my lessons.
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Entirely my mistake actually. This happened on the road to Lavasa, a new township coming up about 50Kms from Pune. The road has a lots of twists and turns. I missed a sharp turn and went off.
Thanks for your concern though. I would say I have learnt my lessons.
Its quite heartening to know that all of you escaped without a scratch. Fiat's build quality gives you that confidence isn't it?

How did your car fare? Did it have any major dents or something after landing in the ditch?
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I've been preparing a comparison sheet which might come into play for my next car purchase. Suddenly, the G.Punto has raised the stakes and made it very interesting. Please find attached the comparison sheet for cars in the 4-5 lakhs (ex-show Delhi) range. Some figures are missing (any assistance in filling those will be appreciated) and if anything is incorrect, please let me know.

Please note that i've made the comparison as per my personal criteria, likings and expectations. There is no right or wrong - e.g. I prefer hydraulic power steering as compared to an electric one, because of feedback, which is purely a personal liking. Also, I've made some suppositions regarding the G.Punto. Think this will result in some more interesting discussion.
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I've been preparing a comparison sheet which might come into play for my next car purchase. Suddenly, the G.Punto has raised the stakes and made it very interesting. Please find attached the comparison sheet for cars in the 4-5 lakhs (ex-show Delhi) range. Some figures are missing (any assistance in filling those will be appreciated) and if anything is incorrect, please let me know.
Nice effort there. Hope they launch GP with the 1.4 DOHC option.
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