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Old 26th November 2004, 18:36   #16
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Yup, but that was until 2002. Read this

<a href="http://www.newspress.com/nash03/03HondaPilot.html" target="_blank">With the introduction of the all new, 2003 Pilot mid-size sport utility vehicle, Honda can come clean about the worst kept secret in the industry - that its former sport utility vehicle (SUV) offering, the Honda Passport, was really just an Isuzu Rodeo with Honda branding.

The new Pilot is all Honda, and in fact, is a lot of Hondas and a bit of the Acura luxury division as well. Its essentially a plainer Jane version of the Acura MDX SUV, sharing major items such as the engine, transmission, and basic chassis. The MDX, in turn, is based on the Honda Odyssey minivan, which stems from the Honda Accord sedan.
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So all the Pilots build after 2003, are made by Honda and have no connection with Isuzu.

And i just learnt that the 2005 Pilot will have drive by wire and 255bhp. they did the same to the CR-V (which is sold in India today)

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Old 26th November 2004, 22:19   #17
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get me a pilot...
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Old 27th November 2004, 07:36   #18
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Like Shan2nu said, i do see more pilots in the US..than CRVs, but this is only recently. And yah, its true..Americans like their trucks BIG..how else do u explain why india doesn't have pickup trucks (i think the Ford F series and Chevy pickups would do well in india). Where i go to school and live...BMW's and Benzes are popular (i see like 5+ M3s every day) The Pilot is positively small compared to a Caddy Escalade or a Ford Expedition even. Iono...frankly, i think the CRV is stupid in the world of SUVs..if i had to get an SUV..it'll prolly be a pimped out Escalade or a nice BMW X5. I still question why no one has tried to sell a pickup truck in india..the american style ones...???
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Old 29th December 2010, 05:37   #19
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One thing that has made me smile each time I drive the Pilot is the awesome feedback and the reliability of Honda engines. Although I brought this for long trips around, I have started to like it for daily commute now. Truely a great Mid Size SUV that is both ideal on power and fuel efficiency and ideal for occasional 6-7 passenger seating capacity(although the third row seats are not great for adults on a longer trips). happy to have made a right decision on acquiring one of these...

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Old 29th December 2010, 11:35   #20
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Pilot is not photogenic, but fairly good looking when you see it in person. The interiors are good too. The drive is good, but not exceptional, handling slightly better than some jap suvs- i found it better than previous gen prado. This is positioned against the prado. The v6 comes with VCM- where it shuts of few cylinders while too much power is not needed- like the current accord v6. If introduced, honda being honda, will over-price is, at prado levels or above that. If so, it wont sell much, because prado makes more sense with diesel and LC-Prado brand name.
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Old 29th December 2010, 14:37   #21
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Let us have both.
1st and foremost Honda should price CRV sensibly.There is nothing else wrong with CRV (oh yes a diesel). Pilot if Honda brings in should be priced somewhere in range of Montero (30-35L INR) max. doesnot have the brand of LC Prado.

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Pilot is not photogenic, but fairly good looking when you see it in person. The interiors are good too. The drive is good, but not exceptional, handling slightly better than some jap suvs- i found it better than previous gen prado. This is positioned against the prado. The v6 comes with VCM- where it shuts of few cylinders while too much power is not needed- like the current accord v6. If introduced, honda being honda, will over-price is, at prado levels or above that. If so, it wont sell much, because prado makes more sense with diesel and LC-Prado brand name.
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Old 29th December 2010, 14:46   #22
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This is a 6 year old thread. No news on Honda Pilot anywhere, is there any point in discussing this here. Pretty misleading. Mods can anything be done?
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Old 29th December 2010, 14:49   #23
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Moderator's Note: Old thread. This will be repoened in case there is a significant development
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Old 29th October 2015, 20:12   #24
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I just saw a picture of the new Honda Pilot and that got me thinking that why is Honda not launching it in India. I think it is mainly because not many people will buy it because it would cost more than a CR-V, but I feel the Pilot is a really good looking SUV which could compete with the Fortuner. To be very honest, I'm pretty sure Indians would prefer the Pilot over the CR-V because of our love for SUVs.

The current Fortuner costs almost 30L and that isn't even for the top end model. This means that it would be safe to assume that the next Fortuner would cost above 30L OTR as well. This means that the pricing could be very close to the Pilot's price if it were launched in India (costs ~22L in America). This along with Honda's brand image and the Pilot's looks would mean that it could actually compete with the Fortuner and sell pretty well here. One potential issue could be the engine because I'm not sure there's a diesel. Other than the R&D costs, I don't think there is any reason for Honda to not launch the Pilot here in India. What do you have to say?

I am attaching a few images of the new Pilot for those who haven't seen this car. None of these images have been taken by me, I have simply taken them from Google.

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Dear Mods, I apologize if this isn't the correct section; I am new here. Kindly move this post to the correct section if possible. Thank you!

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Old 29th October 2015, 21:31   #25
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Pilot looks good. The silhouette looks like Grand Santa Fe. Honda doesn't have the diesel mill to suit the segment. D segment norm is > 150 PS and > 350 NM of torque. It would take sometime for Honda to develop the diesel motor and sure Honda might consider this given Fortuner's monopoly reign in the segment. The fact that D segment would comprise only of SUVs, for the D segment sedans are dying breed and given the D sedans share in the D segment volume, only vouches on favour of Pilot rather than the Civic and the Accord.

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It's really changed from the boxy looking suv it used to be. I think the main issue will be that its not available in RHD (correct me if I'm wrong). Development costs for an RHD version may not be justified by the expected numbers. Also compared to the US cars here generally cost around 2.5-3 times the price, so it will be quite expensive here.
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Pilot looks good. The silhouette looks like Grand Santa Fe. Honda doesn't have the diesel mill to suit the segment. D segment norm is > 150 PS and > 350 NM of torque. It would take sometime for Honda to develop the diesel motor and sure Honda might consider this given Fortuner's monopoly reign in the segment. The fact that D segment would comprise only of SUVs, for the D segment sedans are dying breed and given the D sedans share in the D segment volume, only vouches on favour of Pilot rather than the Civic and the Accord.
True. I hope the new Civic comes to India. Would be an absolute shame if it didn't. I really feel that Honda is missing out on a lot because they don't have an SUV. However, they are launching the Brio-based SUV which should be good (don't really like the styling that much, but oh well).

The warm/hot hatch market is pretty strong nowadays. I think it is about time Honda launched a Brio Type-R! I remember seeing images of the Jazz Mugen, hoping it comes to our shores but it didn't. Let's hope Honda sees potential in the warm/hot hatch market!

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It's really changed from the boxy looking suv it used to be. I think the main issue will be that its not available in RHD (correct me if I'm wrong). Development costs for an RHD version may not be justified by the expected numbers. Also compared to the US cars here generally cost around 2.5-3 times the price, so it will be quite expensive here.
True. I think the Pilot was never offered in RHD. It has grown up a lot! I remember seeing the old Pilot a few years back and thinking that it looked a bit weird, but Honda have really nailed it with this one!

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Similar to the Honda Pilot, do take a look at 2016 models of Toyota Highlander, Nissan Pathfinder, Ford Explorer and the Chevrolet Tahoe.They all seem to be in the same segment, Parent Companies have presence in India and are a lot more comfortable than Fortuner, erstwhile Endeavour, Pajero etc.

But when it comes to selling in numbers these may not produce the metrics that the parent companies look for.

Mods, you may merge this thread with the below if its appropriate.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...nse-india.html (Would the Honda Pilot make more sense in India?)

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Similar to the Honda Pilot, do take a look at 2016 models of Toyota Highlander, Nissan Pathfinder, Ford Explorer and the Chevrolet Tahoe.They all seem to be in the same segment, Parent Companies have presence in India and are a lot more comfortable than Fortuner, erstwhile Endeavour, Pajero etc.

But when it comes to selling in numbers these may not produce the metrics that the parent companies look for.

Mods, you may merge this thread with the below if its appropriate.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...nse-india.html (Would the Honda Pilot make more sense in India?)
I'm sorry to create a duplicate thread, didn't know this existed. I love the Tahoe. To be honest, I feel the Tahoe is definitely a class above the Fortuner. I had a Pathfinder a couple of years ago and I felt it wasn't that refined. Loved the car, but no the best one. I know this will never happen, but I wish trucks make it to India. Ever since I sat in a Nissan Titan I have fallen in love with them.
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I'm sorry to create a duplicate thread, didn't know this existed. I love the Tahoe. To be honest, I feel the Tahoe is definitely a class above the Fortuner. I had a Pathfinder a couple of years ago and I felt it wasn't that refined. Loved the car, but no the best one. I know this will never happen, but I wish trucks make it to India. Ever since I sat in a Nissan Titan I have fallen in love with them.
correct, Tahoe is class above the fortuner. It is proper american full sized vehicle. I had a chance to sit in one. its huge. but not so refined.
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