Which are the cars the manufacturers RUINED by RE-DESIGN? - Page 2 - Team-BHP

brraj · 23rd November 2007, 16:33

Old Honda accord was much better than the new one.

DCEite · 23rd November 2007, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torqy

You could consider Old Generation to New Generation model change as RE-DESIGN. So Accent --> Verna, Baleno --> SX4...etc are all valid.

Even then how does the Indigo fit into this definition ?
There was no old generation Indigo. Or was there?

Torqy · 23rd November 2007, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCEite

Even then how does the Indigo fit into this definition ?
There was no old generation Indigo. Or was there?

Ok...I should've said DESIGN.

Ram · 23rd November 2007, 17:32

Intriguing concept -- earlier gen vs. next gen -- thence this OT:

Kishore Kumar: Amit Kumar
Mukesh : Nitin Mukesh
Sharmila Tagore: Soha Ali Khan
Amitabh Bachchan: Abhishek Bachchan

Am comparing, not the human beings, whom of course, most of us don't know personally, but the immortal personas and façades they conjured up, within the entertainment offerings that we love.

I apologize in advance, if I've trampled somebody's sentiments.

Ram

directinjection · 23rd November 2007, 17:49

Interesting thread indeed!

I agree with the original list more or less but it should have Indica, not Indigo in it. The original IDEA styling was ruined by ERC's desi design team when they introduced those stupid fake wheel arches. Indigo should be kept out since it is not a restyled Indica.

DirtyDan · 23rd November 2007, 17:50

I think the Toyota Innova is an ugly vehicle. Yes, it runs great and has great quality but it is so ugly it has to sneak up on a diesel pump to get fuel. However, the Qualis (What the heck is a "Qualis" anyway?) was not exactly Aishwarya Rai either.

maven · 23rd November 2007, 17:56

Zen estillo without doubt.

HSV · 23rd November 2007, 18:01

No offense, but I think the previous Optra looked better than the current Magnum!

breezydrive · 23rd November 2007, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbasak

Then why did they not change the name?

Maruti wanted to cash upon ZEN's ( the name) popularity by making fool of people!

D1ISTHE1 · 23rd November 2007, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloo

What I understood:
If old was better, then new is ruined?

How to decide whether old was better?

OHC was 3rd Generation Honda City.
NHC is the 4th generation Honda City.
So NHC is not a redesign of OHC.

Note: NHC ZX is redesign of pre-ZX NHC.

hey i must say that, the OHC was a more elegant design and it shud be styled on the pedigree of The City. Hence i conclude the NHC is one ugly car (no offence)

Torqy · 23rd November 2007, 18:48

The problem is sometimes designers go overboard. They add unnecessary lines, cuts, grooves and what not.....to show that they are DESIGNERS....to finally ruin the looks.

A car does NOT have to look OUT OF THE WORLD to look good. Not everybody likes Star Wars.

Why can't we have a CLEAN UNCLUTTERED design? Why should a car bought with your hard earned money look funny? (Zen Classic).

-- Torqy

AMATMO · 23rd November 2007, 18:55

i think i can accept the others but the worst is the current optra IMO

the old optra was so much better atleast it looked as one car now it looks as if front portion of some car pasted on optra's rear portion

Sparkie · 23rd November 2007, 19:02

The Scorpio : The new one still has the old cars silhouette, but I hate:

1. The flaps on the bumper: Absolutely awkward, they just jut out of the bumper and are too huge.

2. The scoop: Besides being non-functional, it looks like someone just stuck on a scoop for the heck of it, they could have made it look much better for an SUV

3. The rear lights: Gawdy. With all those multiple depressions on the long reflector.

The 2nd gen Zen: The old one had a nice shape, but it started looking extremely middle-aged with the facelift, parts of which looked too angular.

The 'Zen' Estilo: Though not a redesign, but a replacement, why-o-why did they have called it the 'ZEN' Estilo? Qualities of the car aside, it is simply not a Zen!

To a small extent:
The Magnum: The design of the front dosn't flow to the back, the atleast the car looks fresher.

Indica: The newer one with those bulged wheel arches - they looked too big, as in disproportionate.

Torqy · 23rd November 2007, 19:11

MODS: Can you please change the thread title to "Cars RUINED by DESIGN / RE-DESIGN" ?

Thanks in advance,

-- Torqy

phamilyman · 23rd November 2007, 19:22

I don't like the 2006 Accord rear. LED lights remind me of plastic gimmic - like pulsar .

I am very very very senti of the rear looks of the 3.0 2005 Accord - very very classy!

23rd November 2007, 16:33	#16 (permalink)
brraj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 71	Old Honda accord was much better than the new one. __________________ Cheers Rajs More doors are opened with 'please' than with keys

23rd November 2007, 17:32	#19 (permalink)
Ram Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai, Pune, München Posts: 1,534 View My Garage	Intriguing concept -- earlier gen vs. next gen -- thence this OT: Kishore Kumar: Amit Kumar Mukesh : Nitin Mukesh Sharmila Tagore: Soha Ali Khan Amitabh Bachchan: Abhishek Bachchan Am comparing, not the human beings, whom of course, most of us don't know personally, but the immortal personas and façades they conjured up, within the entertainment offerings that we love. I apologize in advance, if I've trampled somebody's sentiments. Ram __________________ Before you begin scrambling up the ladder of success, make sure that it is leaning against the right building.

23rd November 2007, 17:50	#21 (permalink)
DirtyDan BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dharamsala Posts: 597	Toy-ugly I think the Toyota Innova is an ugly vehicle. Yes, it runs great and has great quality but it is so ugly it has to sneak up on a diesel pump to get fuel. However, the Qualis (What the heck is a "Qualis" anyway?) was not exactly Aishwarya Rai either. __________________ The only tyrant I accept in this world is the still voice within. -Gandhi

23rd November 2007, 17:56	#22 (permalink)
maven BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 82	RE: Redisgns Zen estillo without doubt.

23rd November 2007, 18:55	#27 (permalink)
AMATMO Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore\GOA Posts: 1,216	i think i can accept the others but the worst is the current optra IMO the old optra was so much better atleast it looked as one car now it looks as if front portion of some car pasted on optra's rear portion __________________ I am a good bad boy

23rd November 2007, 17:49	#20 (permalink)
directinjection BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delhi/Faridabad Posts: 700	Interesting thread indeed! I agree with the original list more or less but it should have Indica, not Indigo in it. The original IDEA styling was ruined by ERC's desi design team when they introduced those stupid fake wheel arches. Indigo should be kept out since it is not a restyled Indica.

23rd November 2007, 18:01	#23 (permalink)
HSV BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 326	No offense, but I think the previous Optra looked better than the current Magnum!

23rd November 2007, 18:48	#26 (permalink)
Torqy BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 309	The problem is sometimes designers go overboard. They add unnecessary lines, cuts, grooves and what not.....to show that they are DESIGNERS....to finally ruin the looks. A car does NOT have to look OUT OF THE WORLD to look good. Not everybody likes Star Wars. Why can't we have a CLEAN UNCLUTTERED design? Why should a car bought with your hard earned money look funny? (Zen Classic). -- Torqy

23rd November 2007, 19:02	#28 (permalink)
Sparkie BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chennai-not at home now Posts: 100	The Scorpio : The new one still has the old cars silhouette, but I hate: 1. The flaps on the bumper: Absolutely awkward, they just jut out of the bumper and are too huge. 2. The scoop: Besides being non-functional, it looks like someone just stuck on a scoop for the heck of it, they could have made it look much better for an SUV 3. The rear lights: Gawdy. With all those multiple depressions on the long reflector. The 2nd gen Zen: The old one had a nice shape, but it started looking extremely middle-aged with the facelift, parts of which looked too angular. The 'Zen' Estilo: Though not a redesign, but a replacement, why-o-why did they have called it the 'ZEN' Estilo? Qualities of the car aside, it is simply not a Zen! To a small extent: The Magnum: The design of the front dosn't flow to the back, the atleast the car looks fresher. Indica: The newer one with those bulged wheel arches - they looked too big, as in disproportionate.

23rd November 2007, 19:11	#29 (permalink)
Torqy BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 309	MODS: Can you please change the thread title to "Cars RUINED by DESIGN / RE-DESIGN" ? Thanks in advance, -- Torqy Last edited by Torqy : 23rd November 2007 at 19:12. Reason: formatting

23rd November 2007, 19:22	#30 (permalink)
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,091	I don't like the 2006 Accord rear. LED lights remind me of plastic gimmic - like pulsar . I am very very very senti of the rear looks of the 3.0 2005 Accord - very very classy!

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