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Old 3rd December 2007, 18:51   #1
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Default Ethanol time-bomb ticking for cars

Makes for interesting read, this one

http://wheels.indiatimes.com/Fast_Fo...ow/2466293.cms

Not sure if this is the right forum/sub-forum for this article ... not sure if this article already exists. If it does, mods can go ahead and remove the thread instantly.

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This sounds like a horror story, can this be true?

Where can we get a list of what car are E10 compatible?

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The Indiatimes article itself is a little old - Oct 2007.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...tml#post312051 (Adding Ethanol in Fuel)
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-your-car.html (Water mixed Ethanol blending can be lethal for your car.)
(the Business Standard link in the first post doesnt work)
also:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ture-fuel.html

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Mann are we in dor a BIG trouble? esp the once with old cars:(
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Great all i can say is looks like our DRAG times are going to go up by a second or so..
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As the article says, are we already using E5 petrol in our cars ? I did not find its mention anywhere on any petrol pump. Is it added by default ?
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This sounds like a horror story, can this be true?

Where can we get a list of what car are E10 compatible?




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Mann are we in dor a BIG trouble? esp the once with old cars:(

From here. Birds-eye view:

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The cars currently being manufactured by Honda Siel Cars Ltd (the Accord and Civic range) and General Motors India (Chevrolet, Optra, Corsa) are already E10-compatible.
This is not so for Maruti Udyog and Hyundai Motors India, whose existing models cannot run on E10 petrol.

The article is Jul 07, but pertinent nevertheless. Both articles mention the E10 upgradation cost to an owner to be Rs 2000-Rs 6000 and involving upgradation of fuel tanks, ECU remap, rubber parts, potential repainting of prone areas/full car with special paint to prevent an E10 side-effect of peeling and some aluminium components of the engine.

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Looks like this is not an issue with carburetted vehicles? Somebody I know claims to know a professional who drives an M800, purely on ethanol aka surgical spirit. He claims better FE and improved power. Being a professional, he has access to that stuff.
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One more reason to go in for Diesel cars?!
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I saw a Honda ad in TOI. All Honda cars in India are E10 compatible.

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As an afterthought, I wonder how this new mandate will impact Maruti's ETD of the M13 engine? Should get speeded up, I guess.
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Honda cars are E10 compatable.Atleast read that in the Civic ad
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How come this topic never surfaced till now though the news is a bit old ? Am sure there is no reason for us to panic as most of the cars on road today may not be E10 compatible IMO and such a drastic measure may hit the country real hard. Do our politicians have the guts to embark on something as risky as this unless they want to jeopardise their own positions ?

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I read this at an Aussie site (http://www.onlinemechanical.net/ethanol-E10.html):

Suzuki Alto, Mighty Boy, Wagon R+, Swift/Cino, Ignis Sport (1.5litre requires 98RON), Sierra, Stockman, Vitara, X-90, Jimmy (SOHC) and Super Carry vehicles do not operate satisfactorily on E10. Suzuki Baleno and Baleno GTX will operate satisfactorily on E10 but Suzuki does not recommend its use in these vehicles. Ignis (1.3Litre), Liana, Grand Vitara/XL-7, Jimmy (DOHC), Carry (1.3 Litre), Swift (2005 on) and APV vehicles will operate satisfactorily on E10.

That means Swift and GV owners in India can breath easily, I think.
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