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Old 28th January 2008, 15:36   #166
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This article compares the Holden (GM Captiva), the CRV and the upcoming Outlander, besides others that dont matter to the Indian buyers.

Compact soft-roader:Holden Captiva v Honda CR-V v Mazda CX-7 v Mitsubishi Outlander v Subaru Forester v Toyota RAV4 - drive.com.au

The Verdict

There's nothing like competition to improve a breed and this segment is as tough as they get. Which means that none of the vehicles we tested were below par. The Captiva was, however, a little out of its depth in this company. It is honest enough but it doesn't have the confidence on the road nor the cabin refinement to mix it with the best in class.

The Forester and the Outlander are both a step up from the Captiva. The Forester is quick and capable and a solid option for people who don't need lots of space, while the Outlander is great value, if a little rough around the edges. But both fall short of excelling in this company.

The Mazda CX-7 is great value and lots of fun to drive on the open road. For many, it ticks all the rational boxes and adds a few emotional ones that the CR-V and RAV4 don't. But its unhealthy thirst for premium unleaded lets it down.

That leaves the Honda CR-V and the RAV4, which both have the best balance of comfort, practicality, economy and space that soft-roader buyers want. Some will go for the Honda's classier cabin and better road manners, others for Toyota's renowned reliability and resale values.

For us, though, the CR-V wins because it delivers the consistency of a RAV4 with a little more personality.
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Looks like GM has started the deliveries of Captiva in Pune. Today i saw one golden colored Captiva(with temporary regn) on the S.B. Road near Symbiosis College. Found the car to be much better looking than the new CRV., IMO.
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This article compares the Holden (GM Captiva), the CRV and the upcoming Outlander, besides others that dont matter to the Indian buyers.

Compact soft-roader:Holden Captiva v Honda CR-V v Mazda CX-7 v Mitsubishi Outlander v Subaru Forester v Toyota RAV4 - drive.com.au

The Verdict

There's nothing like competition to improve a breed and this segment is as tough as they get. Which means that none of the vehicles we tested were below par. The Captiva was, however, a little out of its depth in this company. It is honest enough but it doesn't have the confidence on the road nor the cabin refinement to mix it with the best in class.

The Forester and the Outlander are both a step up from the Captiva. The Forester is quick and capable and a solid option for people who don't need lots of space, while the Outlander is great value, if a little rough around the edges. But both fall short of excelling in this company.

The Mazda CX-7 is great value and lots of fun to drive on the open road. For many, it ticks all the rational boxes and adds a few emotional ones that the CR-V and RAV4 don't. But its unhealthy thirst for premium unleaded lets it down.

That leaves the Honda CR-V and the RAV4, which both have the best balance of comfort, practicality, economy and space that soft-roader buyers want. Some will go for the Honda's classier cabin and better road manners, others for Toyota's renowned reliability and resale values.

For us, though, the CR-V wins because it delivers the consistency of a RAV4 with a little more personality.
Those are with PETROL versions. In Diesel segment, in India, Captiva will hold its own. Honda is not going to bring in their diesel as according them, Diesel quality in India below standards. So that comparison for Indian customers is immaterial.

I think, Captiva has done its homework well in India. GM will NOT bring in their petrol version as they are all set to make merry with their VCDI powered Captiva.
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it indeed is mor impressive than the ctv in my opinion too

i just hope it was good sales(better than the forester)

i know this is not exactly a replacement for forester, but still i hope GM does well woth its sales this time cause even though its a totally different vehicle it still is targeting the same market afterall
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Why is any paying such an exorbitant amount for a Daewoo built 2WD?Suzuki sounds like a much better deal.If you want to spend more I would suggest a CRV that Honda reliable.Is this sold as a 7 seater?
What makes you think that Honda CRV is not overpriced?
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It's beyond me why they chose to delete traction control from the truck when its FWD?The damn thing is going to torque steer like crazy.
Anyway the following link is a better comparo-
2008 Jeep Liberty Limited 4x4, 2007 Hyundai Tucson Limited 4WD, 2008 Ford Escape XLT AWD, 2008 Saturn Vue XE AWD, 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara 4WD XSport, 2008 Mitsubishi Outlander SE 4WD, 2008 Nissan Rogue SL AWD, 2008 Honda CR-V EX 4WD, 2008 Toyota RAV
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Hey,forgot mentioning that the Saturn Vue is the Chevrolet Captiva-well they are based on the GM theta platform,so quite similar
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The captiva is sold out in delhi/ncr till april.

Each dealer has only been allocated 5 cars each month and since its a CBU import its not easy to increase supply.

furthermore - none of the dealers in delhi have the car available for a test drive as yet-been asked to wait until monday atleast.

Surprising strategy from gm to launch the car without having adequate supplies arranged.

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Those are with PETROL versions. In Diesel segment, in India, Captiva will hold its own. Honda is not going to bring in their diesel as according them, Diesel quality in India below standards. So that comparison for Indian customers is immaterial.

I think, Captiva has done its homework well in India. GM will NOT bring in their petrol version as they are all set to make merry with their VCDI powered Captiva.
Honda must be joking. We have Merc Beemers and lots.

Maybe Honda's is all hype!

Toyota salesman says Captiva got lots of bookings here at Tvm!
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Toyota salesman says Captiva got lots of bookings here at Tvm!
hmm....good synergy between japs and americans.
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I too was very interested in this SUV until i was told from a GM official(gurgaon) that the price would fall in the region of CR-V .. I tried to convince the guy that if priced in that region it would not going to be a big success and i was extremely surprised to hear that there has been more than 4000 buyers(all over india) eagerly awaiting to book the car ...

That was the moment i thought and was convinced that this car will not be in the region of 17 lacs and the very next day i went ahead and booked the Laura ... I am quite happy i made the right choice ....

No manufacturer will price a car lower than its competitiors once they get such a healthy response from the market months before its launch ...

I took a very short TD few days ago and i feel its main USP is the Diesel engine, the CR-V seemed quite ahead in the overall driving experience (i may be wrong as i didnt get to drive more than a KM) .
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I saw a Captiva on the eastern express highway today. As I drove up behind it, I couldnt figure out which SUV it was, then saw the bowtie symbol and guessed its the Captiva.

IMHO, it's back-end looks terribly confused and dare I say quite ugly too. The front-end is a different matter altogether and looks appropriate for an SUV. Seems to me like both ends were designed by different chaps.

Haven't got any pics of it though as I was the only one in the car at the time.
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hmm....good synergy between japs and americans.
Japs and Koreans



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I took a very short TD few days ago and i feel its main USP is the Diesel engine, the CR-V seemed quite ahead in the overall driving experience (i may be wrong as i didnt get to drive more than a KM) .
You are right, the CRV is indeed better as far as driving experience is concerned with better handling to boot.

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IMHO, it's back-end looks terribly confused and dare I say quite ugly too.
the rear is really fugly, i dont know how GM even managed to design a ugly rear and a good front?
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I took a very short TD few days ago and i feel its main USP is the Diesel engine, the CR-V seemed quite ahead in the overall driving experience (i may be wrong as i didnt get to drive more than a KM) .
CRV costs an arm and a leg to drive and to maintain. Also, the fuel economy of CRV is horrible. The new 2.0 version of CRV is much weaker and Captiva kills CRV in torque. IMO, apart from the excellent handling, CRV is not that thrilling to drive. Captiva's winning USP is not only diesel engine but a rather powerful and refined diesel engine.
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Honda must be joking. We have Merc Beemers and lots.

Maybe Honda's is all hype!

Toyota salesman says Captiva got lots of bookings here at Tvm!
I agree that Honda is Honda but it's way too overhyped and some of their statements are laughable! Audi, Merc and BMW must be laughing their @$$e$ off after hearing this statement!
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