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Old 8th March 2008, 00:53   #226
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Somebody said in this thread that fully loaded cativa is not at all VFM at 20 L. I responded that if it weren't for CBU and hefty CD + CVD + SAD, these high end versions would be available at a price which would redife VFM concept.
I am yet to come across a CBU car/SUV that can be associated with the term VFM ,so yes Captiva is no exception but having said that GM India could 've easily launched a low trim version at around 17 lacs with less bells and whistles but they decided against it, purely because all they were looking for was higher profit margins ..
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there are 2 captivas in mangalore and i found out they cost 21 lakhs on road here so i am going to stick with my magnum and add a p.box to it once its available and make it 150 bhp
(2 magnums =1 captiva with same engine)
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I am yet to come across a CBU car/SUV that can be associated with the term VFM ,so yes Captiva is no exception but having said that GM India could 've easily launched a low trim version at around 17 lacs with less bells and whistles but they decided against it, purely because all they were looking for was higher profit margins ..
Don't worry. The moment these CBU's start using pathtic plastics and fabrics, squeeze quality here and there, they can easily save some generous amounts of money and then pass it along to Indian customers

Everyone swear by profit margins and this is not limited to foreign players. Indian manufacturers can also use quality plastics and upholstry to make cabin a good place to be. Of course they know how to make their bedrooms and office world class, surely they can do it for their car cabins too. Indian manufacturers are NOT obsessed with quality and for a good reason too; majority of Indians need a kaaam chalaoo gaadi at lowest possible price.
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Don't worry. The moment these CBU's start using pathtic plastics and fabrics, squeeze quality here and there, they can easily save some generous amounts of money and then pass it along to Indian customers
Ya good point ,atleast we get to drive the same quality car the whole world drives ... but they do 've an option ,they can always assemble it here in india ,just what Skoda ,VW others are doing . I guess that should bring the cost down by 1-2 lacs .

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I saw a captiva today at alleppey.Wonderfull shape and finish.Has loads of street presence.It was a maroon metalic colored one.Looked nice in that color too.
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but they do 've an option ,they can always assemble it here in india ,just what Skoda ,VW others are doing . I guess that should bring the cost down by 1-2 lacs .
They could only put this option into work only when they feel like there is enough market for it. Skoda did it's homework pretty good and was instant hit. I think in this segment, at this time, it's too much to ask for but then again it's possible (HM/Mitsubishi thought so while deciding to assemble Outlander locally)

O/T: Honda with it's diesel CRV can be unbeatable but Honda is full of bull$hit when it says they cannot bring in diesel in India as quality of diesel in India is too low for their vehicles. Audi, BMW, VW thinks otherwise!
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was passing by the chevy showroom today and took a chance to check if they had a captiva and they did have a white one which was to be delivered to a customer my first impression
+ points
diesel
looks really nice
seats are really comfy and its really spacious inside
fit and finish is good
electric controls for drivers seat
abs+air bags
mp3 player with audio control on sw
multifunction display in dash
-ve points
no 4wd
engine is loud (maybe because it was cold)
Rs 21,12,000/- on road
no split ac vents for middle and rear passengers(some vent under the front seats to cool ur toes is there)
no reverse sensors or camera for such a big suv
no cruise control,auto wipers or headlights
know some of these can be fitted after market but when u are paying 21lakh+ they should at least be standard fitment(laura offers much much more features for 2 lakhs less)
otherwise captiva looks great very spacious and comfy
didnt get a test drive as there is no test drive vehicle and i doubt they will ever have one in the near future because it costs so much(in my city)
fair price for this suv would be 17 to 18 in india
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Captiva sure is a good alternative for the crv.The crv looks cramped from the outside than the captiva.The initial image created by the captiva is sure a treat for the eyes.In the looks dept the CRV has the double grill which is the centre of attraction but the captiva looks more bulbous and muscular.
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Is it just me or does the Captiva look like "Chevy Spark on steroids" from the rear?

Rs 21 lakhs !! I just wonder how many are going to be sold. Hope it doesnt become another Chevrolet Forester....
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These are test launches, since there is no cost or risk to import them and sell them as opposed to setting up a manufacturing line they can afford to be casual about it.

We have gone through this pricing debate many times so point rehashing it but it it would be wrong to say that Indians want the cheapest alternative.

We pay more, often double for stripped down cars compared to what our higher earning counterparts pay for the fully featured versions in developed countries. How does that square with Indians wanting 'kaaam chalaoo gaadi at lowest possible price? Hence we pay double for less?

The more accurate statement would be businessmen/car manufacturers want the maximum profits while delivering the least value in India.
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I think this thread has had a long life considering the Captiva was launched many months back.

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