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Old 7th May 2009, 17:19   #316
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Just enquired the price of Bolero VLX Crdi & was stunned, its a whopping 6.70L!
Have they gone nuts! Suddenly, Scorpio Lx is appearing as a massive VFM buy!
Also, Xylo already a VFM buy, comes cheaper than this ageing, antiquated UV!
M&M pricing strategy has gone all wrong on this one.
Even though the pricing of the VLX is a bit too high, but somehow it will find buyers who specifically want it and not anything else.

I think comparing Bolero to Scorpio is like comparing apples and oranges
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I don't know whether Bolero can be called an SUV. It is an UV. Thats what even M&M communique calls it.
Topic has been beaten to death. In western markets there is no UV and MUV category. Everything from a crude LR-Defender/Wrangler to a posh Audi Q7 to a sissy car based CRV is categorized as a SUV.

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@MC, Why not compare Bolero & Scorpio, aren't both UV's & now even the price range is somewhat identical.

Also the price isn't a "bit high", its pretty much high!
Many would stretch to Scorpio Lx or many would consider a Xylo isntead.
Anyways consumer would be scuttling between Mahindra products only, good for the company!

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I think comparing Bolero to Scorpio is like comparing apples and oranges
Apart from the refinement levels and clean body lines i dont see any difference in a scorpio or a bolero except for a nice 2+ L jump in price.
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@MC, Why not compare Bolero & Scorpio, aren't both UV's & now even the price range is somewhat identical.

Also the price isn't a "bit high", its pretty much high!
Many would stretch to Scorpio Lx or many would consider a Xylo isntead.
Anyways consumer would be scuttling between Mahindra products only, good for the company!
I have just bought a VLX CRDe and I'll tell you why I didn't buy the Scorpio LX:
  1. Price difference of more than 1 Lac OTR.
  2. I felt Bolero VLX had a better pick up than the Scorpio MHawk (may be because of the weight)
  3. Suspension wise Bolero is capable of taking on the rough better than the Scorpio
  4. Cheaper spare parts and their availability easily across India
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Price difference of more than 1 Lac OTR.
I felt Bolero VLX had a better pick up than the Scorpio MHawk (may be because of the weight)
Suspension wise Bolero is capable of taking on the rough better than the Scorpio
Cheaper spare parts and their availability easily across India
Congrats on your new purchase!
See, ex showroom price of Bolero VLX in my State is ~6.70L & that of Scorpio Lx is ~ 7.23L. So, this shows a diff. of ~ 50K. I don't know how you got a figure of 1L!
Ideally Scorpio's suspension should be better due to being a relatively expensive vehicle & all the talk about multi-link & so!

I do agree on the spares prices though, but that's a small price to pay for what one gets in return, a more modern vehicle!

Certainly Im not trying to put down your purchase over here, sure you would have your own reasons & probably good ones. Also, its your money!
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Congrats on your new purchase!
See, ex showroom price of Bolero VLX in my State is ~6.70L & that of Scorpio Lx is ~ 7.23L. So, this shows a diff. of ~ 50K. I don't know how you got a figure of 1L!
Ideally Scorpio's suspension should be better due to being a relatively expensive vehicle & all the talk about multi-link & so!

I do agree on the spares prices though, but that's a small price to pay for what one gets in return, a more modern vehicle!

Certainly Im not trying to put down your purchase over here, sure you would have your own reasons & probably good ones. Also, its your money!
Thanks for the wishes!

VLX is 6.96 Ex-showroom over here with a 42k discount from the company.
Whereas no discount on the Scorpio.
VLX cost me 7.3 OTR including 63K as registration fees.

You do the maths
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Discount did the trick for you!

Just my thought: When spending so much, does stretching for a small amount matter much?
Otherwise the price diff. between Scorpio & DI Bolero's is significant.
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i remember the other day i had gone to ooty.
All i could see were bolero's being driven around.
Even the mahindra showroom's were filled with bolero and not even a single scorpio !!!
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If I were to make my mind on a Bolero VLX, reasons would be:
-Taxi image of Scorpio + cramped front seats
-Taxi image of Xylo + looks not to my liking!
-Inconspicous vehicle

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Just enquired the price of Bolero VLX Crdi & was stunned, its a whopping 6.70L!
Have they gone nuts! Suddenly, Scorpio Lx is appearing as a massive VFM buy!
Also, Xylo already a VFM buy, comes cheaper than this ageing, antiquated UV!
M&M pricing strategy has gone all wrong on this one.
They lowered the price from the initial launch and now I think there are some discounts which make the Bolero VLX a decent bet. The initial launch price was unreasonable. However, I would agree that if you don't need 4WD the Xylo is a much better bet in terms of handling and interiors space/ergonomics. The Bolero wins on looks though.

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Apart from the refinement levels and clean body lines i dont see any difference in a scorpio or a bolero except for a nice 2+ L jump in price.
You are joking right? Scropio is leagues ahead of Bolero in terms of space/handling/power/refinement.

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I have just bought a VLX CRDe and I'll tell you why I didn't buy the Scorpio LX:
  1. I felt Bolero VLX had a better pick up than the Scorpio MHawk (may be because of the weight)
  2. Suspension wise Bolero is capable of taking on the rough better than the Scorpio
  3. Cheaper spare parts and their availability easily across India
1. Your are joking about the pick up right. I am sure the Mhawk can smoke the living daylights out of the VLX bolero. Check the numbers in the road tests. mhawk has a variable geometery turbo that makes good torque at low rpm. Even if you look at the bhp/torque to weight ration the mhawk wins hands down.

2. The front suspension for Scorpio and Bolero is same IFS set up so Bolero is no necessarly better in this aspect. The rear suspension of the Bolero is leafspring so you get a cheaper/more durable/simpler suspension set up and the trade off is a bumpier ride.

3. Spares are definitely cheaper and it maybe cheaper than the scorpio.

Bolero is a very good vehicle in it's own right, but let's not get carried away and make claims that it is better than the Scorpio by any stretch. Come on Mahindra and Scropio buyers are not that stupid, are they??

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Bolero is hugely over-priced. That is even more acute now with the launch of Xylo.
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Thanks for the wishes!

VLX is 6.96 Ex-showroom over here with a 42k discount from the company.
Wow. That's big money. When I bought Bolero about 5 months back, the company was not offering any discounts and a pittance in the name of corporate discount. Just managed to squeeze a few freebies from the dealer.
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You are joking right? Scropio is leagues ahead of Bolero in terms of space/handling/power/refinement.
Yup, I was kidding because MC bought the car after a lot of deliberation and sure for his requirement it suits him just fine.. Driven an mHawk and it scared the living daylights out of me with its accelaration. It is surely an eager beaver.

Like you rightly said, Bolero is good in its own way and can take the pot holes that MC ventures into regularly and that was the plain reason for him to choose this vehicle over any other SUV.

While I write this he must be happily mile crunching from Bangalore to Coorg

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Yup, I was kidding because MC bought the car after a lot of deliberation and sure for his requirement it suits him just fine.. Driven an mHawk and it scared the living daylights out of me with its accelaration. It is surely an eager beaver.

Like you rightly said, Bolero is good in its own way and can take the pot holes that MC ventures into regularly and that was the plain reason for him to choose this vehicle over any other SUV.

While I write this he must be happily mile crunching from Bangalore to Coorg
Absolutely right that I bought the Bolero for its ability to take the rough in its stride.
I just completed the running in of my VLX and man the "Storm" is a REVELATION!
I raced and won with an Innova on the Bangalore Airport and then subsequently got slapped with an over-speeding fine as well.

I'm presently 90 Km away Mysore and intend to make it to Coorg by midnight.

Cheers
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