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Old 19th February 2008, 15:04   #16
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any changes to the exteriors and the interiors ???
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PS - I am not saying that they dont sell abroad, but the west has far and large become aware of the environement issues
But environmental concerns still don't prevent people in the US and Canada from buying huge V6 and V8 SUVs and pick-ups. If you live by a lake, sea or river and like sailing/boating owning one of those big gas-guzzlers is de rigueur. How else are you going to tow your boat to the water? A Civic or Accord won't cut it, I assure you! It's the same with those who like camping. You need powerful vehicles to go up mountains fully loaded up.
My point is: There is a certain type of customer who needs 4x4 traction and extra power. It's criminal for those who don't need it, buying these things to make up for a lack of size elsewhere . The car companies make vehicles that people want and buy. That vindicates their decision to make them. There has to be a radical shift in lifestyle, especially in the West, if we are going to make any headway in saving the planet.
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Thats where Chevy wins.
Yes, and then loses out on the 2WD factor
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the captiva is not just 2WD its front wheel drive,
I must have been the most disappointed person in this country when that news broke.
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the captiva is not just 2WD its front wheel drive,
Isn't the CR-V front wheel drive too?

2.0 version is FWD only while older 2.4 has FWD with AWD kicking in only when needed!
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Old 19th February 2008, 16:23   #21
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older 2.4 has FWD with AWD kicking in only when needed!
Which is what the Captiva should have been as well. The new CRV is primarily aimed at the Captiva so they saved themselves a few dollars by not giving the AWD.

The Captiva would have killed the Endeavour in one swift stroke if they'd launched a 4x4 or even AWD
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The Captiva would have killed the Endeavour in one swift stroke if they'd launched a 4x4 or even AWD
I think both these cars address different type of customers to some extent. Many who buy Endeavour would have looked at Pajero, Safari kind of full size SUVs and not those softroaders.
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Rear: Self adjusting drum
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Rear: Self adjusting drum

No discs for rear!!!!! that's quite shocking to me considering the price and the weight of the vehicle!!
Exactly what crossed my mind first !!

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beats the pants off the Captiva no?
NOT FOR ME at least.
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Suspension
Front: Independent double wishbone with torsion bar spring & stabilizer bar
Rear: Progressive linear rate leaf springs with low friction pads
Isn't this the same suspension from it's initial launch in 2004?
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Heh it still has those lame leaf springs at the rear. Rather than giving more power, they should first fix the suspension. 18 lacs for a vehicle that runs on leaf springs is unforgiveable.

It has leaf springs!!!!!!!!!! 18 lacs - no rear discs - leaf springs. Hell! what's wrong with safari for roughly 6 lacs less and about 15hp less?
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I know Ford screens this forum, and really hope that they have sorted out the harsh ride. I repeat, that alone will be enough to have thrice as many Endeavour converts.

Any info on this, Starscream?
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^^Looks like the suspension is same as before so I doubt if the ride quality would have improved.
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I dont know what is Ford Smoking? They need to adress the suspension and the middle row. The CRV and Captiva are ahead where it matters alot, better suspension and better comfort. Cant Ford fix the suspension, the ride is far from being good.
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I know Ford screens this forum, and really hope that they have sorted out the harsh ride. I repeat, that alone will be enough to have thrice as many Endeavour converts.

Any info on this, Starscream?
A leaf spring suspension can only be as good. The way to go about this would be to move to a more sophisticated suspension setup.
For a vehicle cost 20 lakhs + on road, leaf spring suspension at the back isnt good enough.
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Heh it still has those lame leaf springs at the rear. Rather than giving more power, they should first fix the suspension. 18 lacs for a vehicle that runs on leaf springs is unforgiveable.
That along with the Rear Drum brakes is a very comforting thought for a Bolero owner.

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