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Old 4th April 2008, 21:56   #61
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When we buy from Shell, we are sure that the money is being handed over to safe and responsible hands and not into the hands of criminals.
You mean these guys? Good Job for making them foreigner richer!
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shell diesel costs Rs.51 in bangalore now !! thats Rs.15 more than normal diesel anywhere ...goodbye shell.
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shell diesel costs Rs.51 in bangalore now !! thats Rs.15 more than normal diesel anywhere ...goodbye shell.
Pretty much defeats the economics of buying a diesel car . Might as well buy a petrol and fuel it at a PSU outlet.
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Outrageous. I think the Shell fuel comes from the same refineries of IOC, HPCL, BPCL. If that is the case I really don't understand why we need to pay such a price differential. I will stick to HP or IOC but will make sure I go to the right bunk (Company operated or the bunk which I am comfortable with). Last time I checked my mileage on my Swift D, I have got over 21 KMPL with 75% highway driving and 50% AC with HP fuel.
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Old 8th April 2008, 15:34   #65
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Hi,

Here in Chennai,
Shell super cost 57.50
Ordinary petrol cost 50

i fill up my accent with 40 lit, so i have to pay 7.50 * 40 lit = Rs 300 extra.For that money i can fill up extra 6 litres and go extra 60 kms.

May be we can buy speed paying 2rs extra anything more than that is not worth.
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Pretty much defeats the economics of buying a diesel car . Might as well buy a petrol and fuel it at a PSU outlet.
You can also buy a diesel from a PSU outlet - I have a Verna diesel that I used to fill from Shell earlier at about Rs 36 when Diesel at PSU was at 33. The incremental mileage was more than the incremental amount of 9%. But now that it's gone up to Rs 51 vs Rs 36 at a PSU, the incremental mileage should be 50% for a breakeven - so my car should give me about 19 - 20 vs 13 at a PSU!!

In any case we are all getting subsidised fuel from PSU stations and the tax payers are paying for it - so you can say your money is coming back to you in a different form
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In any case we are all getting subsidised fuel from PSU stations and the tax payers are paying for it - so you can say your money is coming back to you in a different form
For all the tax that we pay from our hard earned money if there is any benefit at least like Rs.1 lesser than the non tax payers it will be great! Govt can issue petro card valid for 1 year if you file tax on time and correctly! Sigh!

About the prices of Shell I dont understand the logic of Govt allowing private retailers but not providing them subsidy and hence a level playing field. This is like introducing a bunch of jokers voluntarily so that the others can have fun at their cost.

After going back to few HP and BP bunks in Chennai I could really appreciate the neatness, politeness, courtesy, professionalism of the Shell bunks! Govt save Shell!
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You mean these guys? Good Job for making them foreigner richer!
No not at all. But then just think again. What our brother citizens are giving us. Here in Vadodara and A'bad, we have dealers that give less amount of fuel and the indian quality of fuel is really bad. Shell is giving us good quality fuel and not our brothers or our fellow citizens! I think that it is surprizing.

Its not matter of just making the forigen richer. Have you ever tried to complain to the officer or making a high level complain against the fuel selleing stations of india. You will be in deep trouble. The problem is that the attitude of our fellow citizens towards us is not good and that is what drives us away from them.

Any given day, I will try my best to let the money end up in better hands than the present fuel suppliers like IOC.
As a matter of fact, one on HT road in Vadodara, i realized that the pump was cheating with quality. I rushed to the office and complained, but they told me just nothing, but "The problem will be solved".
A mechanic whose shop is adjecent to this pump told me that this pump sells bed quality fuel and sometimes has water in it. You can literally see solid components in it. They sell fuel to people who have brought containers, despite this fact being illegal. They publicly show how to fill kerosene in three wheelers after adding a solution that will make kerosene smell as other liquid and not kerosene.

No I am not into this. I believe in quality, and I am really hurt by the fact the my brothers who are very important part of this nation are cheating innocent people.

( Honda takes a lot of money from Hero as a part of royalty. Even if hero honda changes stickers of bikes, it has to pay a lot of money to Honda. Now is it not making Japan richer!)

PS: I never wrote this to hurt others. If my post in not appropriate by any means, mods please delete this specific post.

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Even If The millage that we can achieve after filling with Shell or similarly priced fuels from Reliance,Essar. Just looking at the sheer quantity of the fuel makes you go for Speed,Power or Xtra Premium . There is no way to justify the price we have to pay to get fuel from Reliance,Essar or Shell.
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Quality of fuel aside, there is no justification for the premium Reliance charges for its diesel. It is a whopping Rs.5/- over and above the price of PS oil companies. For a truck which consumes a litre for every 3.5 km (approx) how much would be the monetary difference? Enough to wipe out the profit, for sure.

And, importantly, the premium has nothing to do with the quality alone. Premium brands exist in the PS oil companies too but it is the subsidies and related economics which force the PSUs to peg down the rates at lower level.

And no company would acknowledge it is supplying substandard fuel so blatantly, would it?
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May be shell is using only additives to give smoother operation and not to enhance mileage. Have to try IOC and BP next. Any one know of any company operated IOC or BP outlets in chennai? I dont trust other bunks.
Personally I try to fill up at the following bunks as a habit

IOC - Kamadhenu on TTK road/Alwarpet Jn.
HP CoCo on Anna Salai near DSC Hyundai
BP on Cathedral Road near Stella Maris - I think they are called Elite
HP - Idumban agencies near the Adyar bridge opp to Andhra Mahila Sabha hospital
BP owned by TVS on Whites Road

Of all these the last one is probably the least modernised in terms of amenities.

Hope this is useful to you
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shell diesel costs Rs.51 in bangalore now !! thats Rs.15 more than normal diesel anywhere ...goodbye shell.
I got that shock yesterday when I drove an extra distance to buy Shell diesel for my Fabia.

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You can also buy a diesel from a PSU outlet - I have a Verna diesel that I used to fill from Shell earlier at about Rs 36 when Diesel at PSU was at 33. The incremental mileage was more than the incremental amount of 9%. But now that it's gone up to Rs 51 vs Rs 36 at a PSU, the incremental mileage should be 50% for a breakeven - so my car should give me about 19 - 20 vs 13 at a PSU!!

In any case we are all getting subsidised fuel from PSU stations and the tax payers are paying for it - so you can say your money is coming back to you in a different form
My question is how is Shell going to stay in business in India? How come they didn't anticipate this problem when they entered the Indian retail fuel market: I'm sure it's no secret that the Indian PSUs are heavily subsidised. It's only because of their hitherto monopolistic hold on the market that one (or a couple) of them made it to the Fortune 500 list.
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I usually fill petrol only in Shell. Because of the recent excessive hike of shell petrol I went to other normal bunk, but later came to know that Shell would be better considering the extra money spent on it.

BP Speed Shell
Petrol/Litre 52.62 57.6
Mileage 11.25 (60% AC) 13.1 (100% AC)
Cost per km 4.677333 4.396947


Even with the extra money shelled out to Shell, my cost per km is less compared to other one. Also the quality should be good in Shell without adulternation, good for the engine.
May be I have to check other petrol bunk which might yield more mileage around 12k/litre.
Guys in chennai, do you know which bunks are good

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Thats very much true Gopinathann, From last 2 months I tried IOC, BP but I found its not worth compared to shell, Around vijayangar I am unable to find good bunk. But cost of shell fuel per litre is too much!

With IOC, BP I found oil mix in Petrol so excessive noise, engine looses power compared to shell even if I use premium petrol. I can see 1 km less FE.

Next time I am trying HP bunk near tioll gate in magadi road.

Regards,

Ravi.

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Guys,
Shell will be next to close down, after reliance. Where is 36/- compared to Rs 51/-, is there that much of a difference? Is it worth it? To each his own. Period.
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