Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > The Indian Car Scene


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 24th February 2005, 15:43   #1
BHPian
 
Minardi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 408
Thanked: 13 Times
Default Toyota Innova Launched !!!

http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/feb/24toyota.htm

Any snaps guys? Pls hunt other sites.

HK
Minardi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 15:48   #2
BHPian
 
Minardi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 408
Thanked: 13 Times
Default

Actually their website is already updated with Innova.

http://www.toyotabharat.com/showroom/innova/index.html

HK
Minardi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 15:58   #3
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,381
Thanked: 14,286 Times
Default

Well, it is a minivan! If you like driving performance, stear clear of minivans. This is the second minivan in India, after Tavera. Somebody was complaining about the sluggishness of Tavera, it is underpowered, etc. Wake up, minivans are not driver's cars, they never are, not even in USA.

The power to weight ratio of Innova is truely horrible, but then it is minivan, therefore can be excused.

If performance is not an issue for you, then you can look forward to Innova to bring some wonderful new technologies to India. And it would make a great family car and luxury taxi.
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 16:04   #4
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 47,713
Thanked: 89,077 Times
Default

Fantastic!! An 8 seater Toyota with a Vvti Petrol and a common rail diesel option.

Buttttttttttttt while the petrol variant starts at a price of 6.8 lacs, the diesel version is at 7.4 lac upward. The on-road base will be about 8 lacs in Mumbai. Not all Qualis potentials will convert to the Innova.

Its not bye bye to Tavera yet.

GTO
GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 16:25   #5
Senior - BHPian
 
merve_extreme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 1,360
Thanked: 12 Times
Default

cost is good man.i was expecting it higher.Will surely do as well as the Qualis or even better.
merve_extreme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 16:58   #6
Senior - BHPian
 
lamborghini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 4,634
Thanked: 1,261 Times
Default

I was expecting the rice to be higher.
Would like to read a test drive so if someone is in the mood please do the car justice
lamborghini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 17:18   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Mumbhai
Posts: 12
Thanked: 0 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTO
Fantastic!! An 8 seater Toyota with a Vvti Petrol and a common rail diesel option.

Buttttttttttttt while the petrol variant starts at a price of 6.8 lacs, the diesel version is at 7.4 lac upward. The on-road base will be about 8 lacs in Mumbai. Not all Qualis potentials will convert to the Innova.

Its not bye bye to Tavera yet.

GTO
Yes, its not bye bye to Tavera but Happy days for Sumo again....!!
BTW How do I upload a ppt file ? I've got presentation on Innova.

Last edited by sunil : 24th February 2005 at 17:22.
sunil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 18:29   #8
BANNED
 
vance0712's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: mumbai
Posts: 143
Thanked: 0 Times
Lightbulb cool for starters

looked at the ppt for the Innova from what s shown it looks a great deal for starters especially taking into consideration the interiors its more the business class types

the price is an awesome cut for the car ver very competitive wonder how well this will fare in our market since toyota has done well with all 3 segments they have launched till now

look forward to the future on this one
vance0712 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 21:21   #9
BHPian
 
rohithdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 104
Thanked: 0 Times
Default

The price is ok but i think the Innova is underpowered, 75 Ps(Diesel) for a 2240Kg vehicle.
rohithdr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 21:55   #10
Team-BHP Support
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 11,883
Thanked: 9,697 Times
Default

Power to weight ratio is fine - imagine taxi drivers in a vehicle accelerating like a Vtec ?
ajmat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 22:44   #11
Senior - BHPian
 
Gordon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 2,420
Thanked: 162 Times
Default

Quote:
The price is ok but i think the Innova is underpowered, 75 Ps(Diesel) for a 2240Kg vehicle.
Its not 75 PS but 75 kW, which is 100.6026 bhp. This much power is more than enough for the Innova Diesel.

Petrol
Engine Capacity - 2.0 L
Power - 136 PS [134.1368 BHP]

Diesel
Engine Capacity - 2.5L
Power - 102 PS [100.6026 BHP]

P.S. A friend of mine seen the Innova [without any stickers/advertisements] on the road. Maybe its the company car for display or something.

Last edited by Gordon : 24th February 2005 at 22:46.
Gordon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2005, 22:47   #12
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 3,717
Thanked: 425 Times
Default

Quote:
The price is ok but i think the Innova is underpowered, 75 Ps(Diesel) for a 2240Kg vehicle.
It's 75Kw which equals a pretty good 102 ps or about 101bhp.
The pricing clearly shows that Toyota is trying to get a upmarket image for itself. 8 lacs for a base diesel means the top end one could go upto 10 lacs? Definately not happening. Anyway, this was expected.
By the way, Toyota officials admitted in Autocar India that its cheaper to manufacture the Innova as compared to the Qualis. So why is it priced higher than Qualis? Looks like Toyota is charging a hefty amount for the blind faith Indians have in their brand.

Last edited by amit : 24th February 2005 at 22:50.
amit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th February 2005, 00:35   #13
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Sahil's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 5,201
Thanked: 2,089 Times
Default

This is a grrr8 pack imo. The car comes loaded with standard features and even in the top of the line the features offered are superb- ABS, Airbags is a boon. This is definatly a great buy if u r looking for a qualis replacement....definatly not even close to an SUV or rather an MUV but i would pick this over the travera anyyyyy day. This feels like a morden age toyota... unlike the qualis that had outdated interiors and styling... but this car look and feels toyota. The interiors look similar to corolla and the beige color just adds that luxury element that it needs, seems really comfortable.... This car will definatly sell extremly well in India.
Sahil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th February 2005, 06:59   #14
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: India
Posts: 360
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

First of all, some people don't understand the difference between Gross Vehicle Weight and Kerb Weight. This car has better power to weight ratio, and also torque spread than the "old" Qualis.

Secondly, the whole IMV project is an extremely low cost one. Toyota went for body on frame construction primarily to cut costs. Now, they are also charging a premium for Innova, which, trust me, people will be only too happy to pay.

This more than anything highlights the sad state of Indian auto industry. Toyota dominated with a 20 year old design. Now they are charging a premium for a contemporary vehicle that is cheaper to manufacture.

Frankly, I can hardly blame Toyota. The challenge is on other players in the industry to raise their game. The Innova will really rewrite the rules and I predict will go on to be a bigger success than the Qualis. The only thing I hate about the car is the rear drum brakes, even on the top of the line model with ABS.
SuperSyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th February 2005, 08:21   #15
Senior - BHPian
 
DCEite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NCR
Posts: 3,044
Thanked: 474 Times
Default

Has anyone noticed from the pics that the rear leg room in second row is actually less than that on the third row..!!...
wonder its a design flaw or what...
DCEite is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Replacing our 2 lakh km Innova - Toyota Innova Crysta vs Ford Endeavour icyspikey SUVs, MUVs & 4x4s 31 16th May 2017 18:48
The Toyota Innova Crysta Petrol. EDIT - Launched @ Rs. 13.73 lakhs dZired The Indian Car Scene 57 26th December 2016 06:14
2014 Toyota Innova Facelift - Now Launched! Scorcher The Indian Car Scene 201 13th October 2013 15:44
Toyota Innova or Toyota Altis Diesel h.k What Car? 9 4th October 2010 10:48


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 02:29.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks