Toyota Innova Launched !!! - Team-BHP

Minardi · 24th February 2005, 14:43

http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/feb/24toyota.htm

Any snaps guys? Pls hunt other sites.

HK

Minardi · 24th February 2005, 14:48

Actually their website is already updated with Innova.

http://www.toyotabharat.com/showroom/innova/index.html

HK

Samurai · 24th February 2005, 14:58

Well, it is a minivan! If you like driving performance, stear clear of minivans. This is the second minivan in India, after Tavera. Somebody was complaining about the sluggishness of Tavera, it is underpowered, etc. Wake up, minivans are not driver's cars, they never are, not even in USA.

The power to weight ratio of Innova is truely horrible, but then it is minivan, therefore can be excused.

If performance is not an issue for you, then you can look forward to Innova to bring some wonderful new technologies to India. And it would make a great family car and luxury taxi.

GTO · 24th February 2005, 15:04

Fantastic!! An 8 seater Toyota with a Vvti Petrol and a common rail diesel option.

Buttttttttttttt while the petrol variant starts at a price of 6.8 lacs, the diesel version is at 7.4 lac upward. The on-road base will be about 8 lacs in Mumbai. Not all Qualis potentials will convert to the Innova.

Its not bye bye to Tavera yet.

GTO

merve_extreme · 24th February 2005, 15:25

cost is good man.i was expecting it higher.Will surely do as well as the Qualis or even better.

lamborghini · 24th February 2005, 15:58

I was expecting the rice to be higher.
Would like to read a test drive so if someone is in the mood please do the car justice

sunil · 24th February 2005, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Fantastic!! An 8 seater Toyota with a Vvti Petrol and a common rail diesel option.

Buttttttttttttt while the petrol variant starts at a price of 6.8 lacs, the diesel version is at 7.4 lac upward. The on-road base will be about 8 lacs in Mumbai. Not all Qualis potentials will convert to the Innova.

Its not bye bye to Tavera yet.

GTO

Yes, its not bye bye to Tavera but Happy days for Sumo again....!!
BTW How do I upload a ppt file ? I've got presentation on Innova.

vance0712 · 24th February 2005, 17:29

looked at the ppt for the Innova from what s shown it looks a great deal for starters especially taking into consideration the interiors its more the business class types

the price is an awesome cut for the car ver very competitive wonder how well this will fare in our market since toyota has done well with all 3 segments they have launched till now

look forward to the future on this one

rohithdr · 24th February 2005, 20:21

The price is ok but i think the Innova is underpowered, 75 Ps(Diesel) for a 2240Kg vehicle.

ajmat · 24th February 2005, 20:55

Power to weight ratio is fine - imagine taxi drivers in a vehicle accelerating like a Vtec ?

Gordon · 24th February 2005, 21:44

Quote:

The price is ok but i think the Innova is underpowered, 75 Ps(Diesel) for a 2240Kg vehicle.

Its not 75 PS but 75 kW, which is 100.6026 bhp. This much power is more than enough for the Innova Diesel.

Petrol
Engine Capacity - 2.0 L
Power - 136 PS [134.1368 BHP]

Diesel
Engine Capacity - 2.5L
Power - 102 PS [100.6026 BHP]

P.S. A friend of mine seen the Innova [without any stickers/advertisements] on the road. Maybe its the company car for display or something.

amit · 24th February 2005, 21:47

Quote:

The price is ok but i think the Innova is underpowered, 75 Ps(Diesel) for a 2240Kg vehicle.

It's 75Kw which equals a pretty good 102 ps or about 101bhp.
The pricing clearly shows that Toyota is trying to get a upmarket image for itself. 8 lacs for a base diesel means the top end one could go upto 10 lacs? Definately not happening. Anyway, this was expected.
By the way, Toyota officials admitted in Autocar India that its cheaper to manufacture the Innova as compared to the Qualis. So why is it priced higher than Qualis? Looks like Toyota is charging a hefty amount for the blind faith Indians have in their brand.

Sahil · 24th February 2005, 23:35

This is a grrr8 pack imo. The car comes loaded with standard features and even in the top of the line the features offered are superb- ABS, Airbags is a boon. This is definatly a great buy if u r looking for a qualis replacement....definatly not even close to an SUV or rather an MUV but i would pick this over the travera anyyyyy day. This feels like a morden age toyota... unlike the qualis that had outdated interiors and styling... but this car look and feels toyota. The interiors look similar to corolla and the beige color just adds that luxury element that it needs, seems really comfortable.... This car will definatly sell extremly well in India.

SuperSyn · 25th February 2005, 05:59

First of all, some people don't understand the difference between Gross Vehicle Weight and Kerb Weight. This car has better power to weight ratio, and also torque spread than the "old" Qualis.

Secondly, the whole IMV project is an extremely low cost one. Toyota went for body on frame construction primarily to cut costs. Now, they are also charging a premium for Innova, which, trust me, people will be only too happy to pay.

This more than anything highlights the sad state of Indian auto industry. Toyota dominated with a 20 year old design. Now they are charging a premium for a contemporary vehicle that is cheaper to manufacture.

Frankly, I can hardly blame Toyota. The challenge is on other players in the industry to raise their game. The Innova will really rewrite the rules and I predict will go on to be a bigger success than the Qualis. The only thing I hate about the car is the rear drum brakes, even on the top of the line model with ABS.

DCEite · 25th February 2005, 07:21

Has anyone noticed from the pics that the rear leg room in second row is actually less than that on the third row..!!...
wonder its a design flaw or what...

24th February 2005, 14:43	#1 (permalink)
Minardi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 216	Toyota Innova Launched !!! http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/feb/24toyota.htm Any snaps guys? Pls hunt other sites. HK

24th February 2005, 14:58	#3 (permalink)
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: KA-20 Posts: 5,999 View My Garage	Well, it is a minivan! If you like driving performance, stear clear of minivans. This is the second minivan in India, after Tavera. Somebody was complaining about the sluggishness of Tavera, it is underpowered, etc. Wake up, minivans are not driver's cars, they never are, not even in USA. The power to weight ratio of Innova is truely horrible, but then it is minivan, therefore can be excused. If performance is not an issue for you, then you can look forward to Innova to bring some wonderful new technologies to India. And it would make a great family car and luxury taxi. __________________ Samurai The notchy gearshift of GV has become buttery smooth after I started driving the Jeep.

24th February 2005, 15:04	#4 (permalink)
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 13,192 View My Garage	Fantastic!! An 8 seater Toyota with a Vvti Petrol and a common rail diesel option. Buttttttttttttt while the petrol variant starts at a price of 6.8 lacs, the diesel version is at 7.4 lac upward. The on-road base will be about 8 lacs in Mumbai. Not all Qualis potentials will convert to the Innova. Its not bye bye to Tavera yet. GTO __________________ GTO Change the way you think, and watch the world change around you. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

24th February 2005, 15:25	#5 (permalink)
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,290 View My Garage	cost is good man.i was expecting it higher.Will surely do as well as the Qualis or even better. __________________ No one has done more to improve the automobile than the one who invented it ----- Mercedes Benz

24th February 2005, 15:58	#6 (permalink)
lamborghini Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Mumbai/Smithfield, RI, USA Posts: 2,664 View My Garage	I was expecting the rice to be higher. Would like to read a test drive so if someone is in the mood please do the car justice __________________ ¢нєєяѕ ℓαмвσ lamborghinirules@gmail.com

24th February 2005, 14:48	#2 (permalink)
Minardi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 216	Actually their website is already updated with Innova. http://www.toyotabharat.com/showroom/innova/index.html HK

24th February 2005, 17:29	#8 (permalink)
vance0712 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 139	cool for starters looked at the ppt for the Innova from what s shown it looks a great deal for starters especially taking into consideration the interiors its more the business class types the price is an awesome cut for the car ver very competitive wonder how well this will fare in our market since toyota has done well with all 3 segments they have launched till now look forward to the future on this one

24th February 2005, 20:21	#9 (permalink)
rohithdr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 104	The price is ok but i think the Innova is underpowered, 75 Ps(Diesel) for a 2240Kg vehicle.

24th February 2005, 20:55	#10 (permalink)
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,517 View My Garage	Power to weight ratio is fine - imagine taxi drivers in a vehicle accelerating like a Vtec ?

24th February 2005, 23:35	#13 (permalink)
Sahil Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,067	This is a grrr8 pack imo. The car comes loaded with standard features and even in the top of the line the features offered are superb- ABS, Airbags is a boon. This is definatly a great buy if u r looking for a qualis replacement....definatly not even close to an SUV or rather an MUV but i would pick this over the travera anyyyyy day. This feels like a morden age toyota... unlike the qualis that had outdated interiors and styling... but this car look and feels toyota. The interiors look similar to corolla and the beige color just adds that luxury element that it needs, seems really comfortable.... This car will definatly sell extremly well in India.

25th February 2005, 05:59	#14 (permalink)
SuperSyn BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: India Posts: 289	First of all, some people don't understand the difference between Gross Vehicle Weight and Kerb Weight. This car has better power to weight ratio, and also torque spread than the "old" Qualis. Secondly, the whole IMV project is an extremely low cost one. Toyota went for body on frame construction primarily to cut costs. Now, they are also charging a premium for Innova, which, trust me, people will be only too happy to pay. This more than anything highlights the sad state of Indian auto industry. Toyota dominated with a 20 year old design. Now they are charging a premium for a contemporary vehicle that is cheaper to manufacture. Frankly, I can hardly blame Toyota. The challenge is on other players in the industry to raise their game. The Innova will really rewrite the rules and I predict will go on to be a bigger success than the Qualis. The only thing I hate about the car is the rear drum brakes, even on the top of the line model with ABS.

25th February 2005, 07:21	#15 (permalink)
DCEite Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: (Gur)Gaon Posts: 1,952 View My Garage	Has anyone noticed from the pics that the rear leg room in second row is actually less than that on the third row..!!... wonder its a design flaw or what...

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