Spotted: Maruti Suzuki Splash And A-star - Page 27 - Team-BHP

aaggoswami · 16th October 2008, 23:42

Nice.
Thanks to all those who have posted the specs. All other cars in Rs. 3.5-4.5 lakh are now having a reason to worry.

Finally a long stroke motor. Lets say it develops 67.5 bhp ( 50 Kw), and with full options it weighs in at 910 kg, so we still have power to weight ratio of 74.1 bhp/ltr. So some reasonable performace expected.

Santro and Wagon R have a cause to worry. Wagon R sales are bound to drop along with Santro. Top speed of around 155 is good for this car. I hope the FE will be also equally impressive given the good torquey feel and good torque will be hopefully available from that long stroke motor.
Gearbox as good as Swift is a good thing. Wow Maruti!

@mail4ajo:
The fuel efficiency figures are not correct. Figure out this : 62.7 ltrs used for 100 kms = 1.5 ( approx ) kmpl. Might be a typing or decimal error.

EDIT : The website mentioned by sidindica states the fuel efficiency of 4.5 L/100 km = 22 kmpl. So expect the efficiency to be high.

madhokritesh · 16th October 2008, 23:51

Yes all the specs said by sureshkishore are confirmed the A Star is in mumbai at the regional office of Maruti i guess at BKC.

badboyscad · 16th October 2008, 23:53

Thats a lot of info, thanks.

madhokritesh · 17th October 2008, 10:24

One thing thats visible on the Splash brochure is that it comes with a massive 5years warranty, now thats something we also wud love to have here wot say guys?

madhokritesh · 17th October 2008, 10:34

Hers a brief details of the dimensions of the AStar and the Swift.
Swift Dimensions -

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length3,695mmOverall Width1,690mmOverall Height1,530mm

Astar Dimensions

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length3,500mmOverall Width1,600mmOverall Height1,470mm

blue_pulsar · 17th October 2008, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by madhokritesh

Hers a brief details of the dimensions of the AStar and the Swift.
Swift Dimensions -

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length3,695mmOverall Width1,690mmOverall Height1,530mm

Astar Dimensions

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length3,500mmOverall Width1,600mmOverall Height1,470mm

Yes, dimension-wise is smaller than the Swift but bigger than the WagonR/Estilo.

But the thing to be seen here is, with a puny 1.0L engine, can it beat the i10 Kappa? I seriously doubt. Unless they price it within the present WagonR/Estilo price, i10 Kappa will take all the customers. In the mean while, Hyundai might just launch the Era and D-Lite versions of i10 Kappa. If this happens, what will Maruti do?

So, to conclude(IMO), the idea of 1.0L engine was a very bad one. It should have been the 1.2. Else, price it within the Estilo range.

speedzak · 17th October 2008, 14:33

This 1ltr engine produces as much power as the older 1.1ltr engine. So, it matches it's competitors in that department. Ain't it?

Hope MSIL has some good surprises up it's sleaves similar to SX4 and Swift etc..

blue_pulsar · 17th October 2008, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedzak

This 1ltr engine produces as much power as the older 1.1ltr engine. So, it matches it's competitors in that department. Ain't it?

Agreed, it has more power than WagonR or Santro. But if they price close to Kappa, then I just feel Kappa has a definite edge with 79bhp. Plus the beige interiors to satisfy the beige crazy public.

Also, the WagonR and Santro weigh around 800 kgs, give or take. How will a 1.0L engine perform on a 900kg car? I hear people complaining with Swift P's 1.3 engine. Low torque etc. Swift engine produces around 87bhp peak and the vehicle weighs around 1050kg. This is my main concern.

aaggoswami · 17th October 2008, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_pulsar

Agreed, it has more power than WagonR or Santro. But if they price close to Kappa, then I just feel Kappa has a definite edge with 79bhp. Plus the beige interiors to satisfy the beige crazy public.

Also, the WagonR and Santro weigh around 800 kgs, give or take. How will a 1.0L engine perform on a 900kg car? I hear people complaining with Swift P's 1.3 engine. Low torque etc. Swift engine produces around 87bhp peak and the vehicle weighs around 1050kg. This is my main concern.

Santro:
Kerb Weight = 854 kg.
Power = 63 bhp.
Power to weight ratio = 73.77 bhp/ton.

Wagon R:
Kerb Weight = 830 kg ( non duo, +60kg for duo ).
Power = 64bhp.
Power to weight ratio = 77.1 bhp/ton.

A-Star:
Kerb weight = 910 kg.
Power = 67.5 bhp.
Power to weight ratio = 74.1 bhp/ton.

So A-star will be able to keep its head high. Moreover A-star has better aerodynamics than either Wagon R or Santro. This will also give a boost.
About people complaining about Swift 1.3, well that is a short stroke motor with bore = 74mm and stroke = 75.5mm and this is the reason why it has poor bottom end torque and hence the complain. I dont think any body is unhappy about the Swift's performance on highways where that G-series motor performs well.
In case of A-star the motor is long stroke ( bore X stroke = 73mm X 79.4mm) and hence it will have more bottom end torque available.

fx45 · 17th October 2008, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by madhokritesh

Yes all the specs said by sureshkishore are confirmed the A Star is in mumbai at the regional office of Maruti i guess at BKC.

could you give me more information on this location, i am based at 5 mins from BKC.

vamshi_v · 17th October 2008, 17:20

how is the seating comfort in front and backseat for A star...

Sahil · 17th October 2008, 17:29

My office building shares its wall with the maruti office building and i see no a-star parked there.

aaggoswami · 17th October 2008, 19:43

@sahil:

Can you please get some shots of the final production cars. Any interior shot also, if possible. Today at around 5pm, I could not any A-star parked at Kiran Motors, Vadodara.

Edit: @ shail did you mean Number of A-star or NO a-star ?

If found NO, sorry for this post and @mods:delete this post.

Sahil · 18th October 2008, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaggoswami

@sahil:

Can you please get some shots of the final production cars. Any interior shot also, if possible. Today at around 5pm, I could not any A-star parked at Kiran Motors, Vadodara.

Edit: @ shail did you mean Number of A-star or NO a-star ?

If found NO, sorry for this post and @mods:delete this post.

i meant NO, not number

i'll keep a looking out, am in Paris for the next 10 days so once i'm back i'll keep an eye on their parking lot.

madhokritesh · 18th October 2008, 22:50

Ok got some info as the training for the Mumbai region is over the cars have moved to Pune, So Pune guys better keep a watch.

16th October 2008, 23:42	#391 (permalink)
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 3,096	Nice. Thanks to all those who have posted the specs. All other cars in Rs. 3.5-4.5 lakh are now having a reason to worry. Finally a long stroke motor. Lets say it develops 67.5 bhp ( 50 Kw), and with full options it weighs in at 910 kg, so we still have power to weight ratio of 74.1 bhp/ltr. So some reasonable performace expected. Santro and Wagon R have a cause to worry. Wagon R sales are bound to drop along with Santro. Top speed of around 155 is good for this car. I hope the FE will be also equally impressive given the good torquey feel and good torque will be hopefully available from that long stroke motor. Gearbox as good as Swift is a good thing. Wow Maruti! @mail4ajo: The fuel efficiency figures are not correct. Figure out this : 62.7 ltrs used for 100 kms = 1.5 ( approx ) kmpl. Might be a typing or decimal error. EDIT : The website mentioned by sidindica states the fuel efficiency of 4.5 L/100 km = 22 kmpl. So expect the efficiency to be high. __________________ Never Dream because broken dreams hurt the most.There is no market for emotions. EVENTUALLY FATE DECIDES EVERYTHING. Last edited by aaggoswami : 16th October 2008 at 23:45.

16th October 2008, 23:53	#393 (permalink)
badboyscad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TN Posts: 1,284 View My Garage	Thats a lot of info, thanks. __________________ Im not the Best but im not like the rest Last edited by badboyscad : 16th October 2008 at 23:57.

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Sahil Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 3,033	My office building shares its wall with the maruti office building and i see no a-star parked there. __________________ ______________ __________ ______ __

17th October 2008, 19:43	#403 (permalink)
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 3,096	@sahil: Can you please get some shots of the final production cars. Any interior shot also, if possible. Today at around 5pm, I could not any A-star parked at Kiran Motors, Vadodara. Edit: @ shail did you mean Number of A-star or NO a-star ? If found NO, sorry for this post and @mods:delete this post. __________________ Never Dream because broken dreams hurt the most.There is no market for emotions. EVENTUALLY FATE DECIDES EVERYTHING. Last edited by aaggoswami : 17th October 2008 at 19:55.

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