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Old 17th July 2008, 18:40   #1
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Thumbs up Fuel efficiency norm for cars ready. EDIT : Coming our way in 2011

Nitin Sethi, TNN New Delhi: The fuel economy standards for cars are ready. By the end of this year, the government will implement voluntary labelling of cars and by 2011-12, the fuel efficiency norms will be made mandatory for all passenger vehicles — any car that fails will not be allowed on the road after the cut-off date.

The government hopes that by imposing the standards, consumers will be able to make a more informed decision while buying a car besides resulting in savings of 5-15 million tonnes of oil from the passenger vehicle segment by 2030.

To implement the fuel efficiency norms, car models have been divided into eight weight categories. For each weight class, the government has identified the best and worst performers. It has been found that within the same weight category the fuel efficiency of different models could vary by as much as 60-70%. So while the best model in the small car segment might give a consumer 20 kmpl, another might be giving a mileage as low as 10 kmpl.

By imposing standards, the government wants the poor performers to meet the standards set by the best in the industry. This will ensure two things. The consumer gets better performing new cars each year and auto manufacturers are not able to claim that they are being forced to go for costly technology — they would be expected to only use the best technology already in use in India.

With the standards being raised for each segment every couple of years, the bar will keep getting higher and the badly performing models, if they don’t improve, will be banned from Indian roads starting 2011-12.

For the consumer, things will get much easier beginning the last quarter of 2008. The government will start the mileage labelling of cars.

Manufacturers for a fixed fee can ask the government to test the car for mileage and then allow them to put the ‘star rating label’ just like most air conditioners and refrigerators carry today. The model that achieves the best fuel economy standards for its category will be given five stars and the worst performers will be given one star. The label will display the mileage, as certified by the government, that particular model gives.

It will, more importantly, inform the consumer how that particular model performs in comparison with the best and the worst in its particular weight category. Data about all the vehicles that manufacturers get tested by the government would also be put up on a website to help consumers compare figures even before they hit the showrooms.

The Bureau and the Petroleum Conservation Ressearch Association had to secure the data to build the programme from public databases with the industry constantly showing reluctance to share information even while discussing other issues with the government.

With aggressive advertising and public outreach, the government intends to push all manufacturers to get their models labelled starting 2008-end and within three years, the labelling would be made compulsory for all cars.

By imposing fuel efficiency standards, the consumer will get better performing cars every year

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It remains to be seen how effectively they can implement this, and how foolproof the grading system is. If it works well, then the customer gains a little due to this now official mileage labeling. To take it to the next step where everyone gains - the country and consumers, they should link the mileage tags to lowered rates of loan interest and appropriate corrections in car prices.
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This is a good policy which will help us to save vaulable forex. But we need to know how the mileage figures are arrived at. This will be pure mockery if they start testing cars like how Ford tested Fiesta Diesel.

And I hope this applies to all class of vehicles including imported ones. We also need to know if this applies to already running car or just the new batches.
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I think that it is yet to prove itself.
This is a step in right direction, but what remains to be seen is the intensity with which it is applied.

I hope that they have proper standards and then tax the car accordingly.
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Its all theory..... nothing practical.

even the theory has holes..... the practical would be disastrous
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How many more such false promises will come thru ? Show me one single norm on papers which has been implemented. I wonder if this norm will ever see daylight.
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Nitin Sethi, TNN New Delhi: The fuel economy standards for cars are ready. By the end of this year, the government will implement voluntary labelling of cars and by 2011-12, the fuel efficiency norms will be made mandatory for all passenger vehicles — any car that fails will not be allowed on the road after the cut-off date.

The government hopes that by imposing the standards, consumers will be able to make a more informed decision while buying a car besides resulting in savings of 5-15 million tonnes of oil from the passenger vehicle segment by 2030.

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2030 . I had read somewhere that Shell predicts that by 2015, Demand for Petrol/Diesel will exceed the supply.
If we go by this stats, I doubt if the crude is even going to last till 2030. And even if it lasts, I again doubt about whether people will be able to buy it at that price.

I am expecting newer technologies with alternate fuel to hit the market soon. Maybe, 5-6 years doen the line.

IMHO, I think its too little too late from the Government. Instead, they should be doing something for pushing the newer alternate fuel technology.

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hope car makers don't start stripping the vehicle just enough so that it stays in the weight category but mileage goes up - build quality may go down if they start doing that and we may see the old tin cars back in fashion
A solution to that would be to introduce a safety standard in terms of build quality and mandatory features like abs/air bags in addition to the mileage ratings. This will ensure that the car is fuel efficient and safe at the same time and no shortcuts have been taken to strip the car of essential safety parts (side impact beams, 5mph bumpers, etc)
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To implement the fuel efficiency norms, car models have been divided into eight weight categories. For each weight class, the government has identified the best and worst performers.
Just Categorisation by weight isn't enough. There has to be other factors built in like Fuel type used and Engine size.

Say for example, for a Palio, the 1.1, the 1.3 JTD and the 1.6 shouldn't be placed in the same category.
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Totally Bad Idea.
Fuel Efficiency depends on the driving style of the person too.
With me getting 18 kmpl on my vRs on the highway and a decent 10kmpl in the city, i dont think its at all bad.
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It remains to be seen how effectively they can implement this, and how foolproof the grading system is. If it works well, then the customer gains a little due to this now official mileage labeling. To take it to the next step where everyone gains - the country and consumers, they should link the mileage tags to lowered rates of loan interest and appropriate corrections in car prices.
They can link this to lowered rates of road tax too. But I wonder if the greedy government will be willing to lose revenue
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More than a one and a half decade back, Ford had launched bus chassis in India. 5 to 6 years after the initial launch, I came across two individuals, each owners of one ford bus each. First one swore by FE of his bus - he was claiming 7 KMPL (diesel) for a 43 seater. The other guy swore by the "pick up" and speed of his 43 seater vehicle, but admitted to FE of mere 2.3 KMPL!!!

The competition at that time was from Tata and Ashok Leyland, which gave between 3.2 to 3.7 KMPL
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hopefully by the time they get to implementing this, we'll still be on petrol/diesel and not zipping around in battery powered reva lookalikes
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Totally Bad Idea.
Fuel Efficiency depends on the driving style of the person too.
Exactly. I wonder how they will set the standards. If they end up in lab testing, then again we will have very optimistic figures as the bike manufacturers provide.
Some serious thinking is required with well thought out standards, or else it could play a role inverse to what it is suppossed to play.

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hope car makers don't start stripping the vehicle just enough so that it stays in the weight category but mileage goes up - build quality may go down if they start doing that and we may see the old tin cars back in fashion ...
Its too much to ask for. To achieve this they must first enforce some sort of crash testing done by an independent insitution. IMO, they can call up Euro NCAP and ask them to make a facality for testing here.
However, the government should also take care they are able to provide proper quality of fuel at least for these engine to be able to get the real low emession figures on the road.
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Driving style dosen't really matter as long as every car is tested using the same style. What matters is that we get an apples to apples comparison.
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