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Old 27th July 2008, 23:57   #61
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i mean the sheer economies of scale which the 800 commands

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I remember that the alto sells more than the M800.
Lemme put it this way.
The Maruti 800 has been in the market for ages and due to this fact they have achieved break even for the cost of dies for the body panels and stuff maybe a decade or more in the past.
Thus they can price the car further lower.
I hope this justifies the "sheer economies of scale" for 800.
Frankly I would go for a car which is easy to maintain. returns great fuel economy and is at the same time agile as well.

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It is already launched.
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Wagon R came out with a limited edition called the Primea a couple of years ago.
Alloy Wheels, Beige Interior and some other bells and whistles.
WagonR is a very good vehicle in itself though the self styled positioning as an MAV - Multi Activity Vehicle cues are a bit OTT and to an extent, "wannabe".

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I remember that the alto sells more than the M800.



BTW, did the WagonR have a limited edition couple of years back, also named "uniq"? I distinctly remember seeing an older type wagonR (one with the rear number plate on rear bumper - present ones have it on the hatch) at a distant relative's place. It had beige interior, alloy wheels, dual tone dash, etc. He was saying that this was a limited edition version.
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Is that a cigarette lighter, or an "Electric Charger" point, in the brochure?

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Appreciate the respect of some of you for 800...

But in 2008 to release something like this and call it limited edition is not going to fool anybody...

Shame on Maruti...
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All you guys out there if you must blame someone ,blame the car maker not the car.
Period.
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Appreciate the respect of some of you for 800...

But in 2008 to release something like this and call it limited edition is not going to fool anybody...

Shame on Maruti...
I'm with you. There has to be a limit to sentimentality.Why are we bombing each other then?.I say , 'kill' this car. Give the 800 a dignified automotive death, please.
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M800 is a great car at the pricepoint on offer. No two words about it. Easy to run, easy on the wallet too. As someone pointed out, Indian Auto industry is BM and AM. M800 defined the face of Maruti in India. Any and every auto manufacturer in India would give their arm and leg to be in Maruti's position w.r.t the brand value, the main contributor being M800. But MSIL is to blame for not providing regular upgrades. UNIQ would have worked wonders a decade back when we had to wait 3-5 months for a M800.

MSIL instead of doing these silly "upgrades" could have used the opportunity to create an aura around the 800, something on the lines of Fiat 500. Its a case of lost chances. They can very well provide a better dash, better seats, better bumpers etc to start with. Sadly, these days they dont even provide an ash tray (just an empty slot), stickers in place of emblem etc and the seats are a joke. Models between 1998 to 2002 had great seats. They have taken cost cutting to extremes.

Inspite of the drawbacks, M800 sells 5500+ units a month. Its more than what GM manages to do with Spark, for eg. This should inspire MSIL to do something better than what they are doing now. A 25+ year old model need not be trash. You should be proud of it. If it was a foreign model, then the same people would call it a ICON but a car by an Indian manufacturer would classify it as TRASH. Plain double standards.

I too own a 98 model M800 DX among other cars. It has clocked 90K Kms and still runs like clockwork (Touchwood !!!) Bare minimum maintainence and the cost of spares will make some top rung bike spares exhorbitant. A bumper costs just 800+ bucks at MASS, beat that...

Market forces along with govt policies (emission, crash tests etc) determine the life cycle of a automobile in India. So MSIL will continue to flog the model till it dies a natural death.
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M800 is a great car at the pricepoint on offer. No two words about it. Easy to run, easy on the wallet too. As someone pointed out, Indian Auto industry is BM and AM. M800 defined the face of Maruti in India. Any and every auto manufacturer in India would give their arm and leg to be in Maruti's position w.r.t the brand value, the main contributor being M800. But MSIL is to blame for not providing regular upgrades. UNIQ would have worked wonders a decade back when we had to wait 3-5 months for a M800.

MSIL instead of doing these silly "upgrades" could have used the opportunity to create an aura around the 800, something on the lines of Fiat 500. Its a case of lost chances. They can very well provide a better dash, better seats, better bumpers etc to start with. Sadly, these days they dont even provide an ash tray (just an empty slot), stickers in place of emblem etc and the seats are a joke. Models between 1998 to 2002 had great seats. They have taken cost cutting to extremes.

Inspite of the drawbacks, M800 sells 5500+ units a month. Its more than what GM manages to do with Spark, for eg. This should inspire MSIL to do something better than what they are doing now. A 25+ year old model need not be trash. You should be proud of it. If it was a foreign model, then the same people would call it a ICON but a car by an Indian manufacturer would classify it as TRASH. Plain double standards.

I too own a 98 model M800 DX among other cars. It has clocked 90K Kms and still runs like clockwork (Touchwood !!!) Bare minimum maintainence and the cost of spares will make some top rung bike spares exhorbitant. A bumper costs just 800+ bucks at MASS, beat that...

Market forces along with govt policies (emission, crash tests etc) determine the life cycle of a automobile in India. So MSIL will continue to flog the model till it dies a natural death.
This car is a foreign model!. It was not designed in India 30 years ago. And, no foreign manufacturer would dare to keep churning an outdated model year after year with no upgrades and expect to stay in business. The fact that you own one doesn't take anything away from you. You have the right to drive what you want. That doesn't take away from the fact, though. The fact is that this car is long past it's "sell-by" date.Who cares if it can clock so many miles?.I can show you Morris Minors that have clocked more than 250,000 miles and are still in running condition. Does that mean Morris Minors should have continued in production?.

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Just reading about all the people saying stuff like the 800 should be dead or about kill the 800 is making sick.Look this is India, here people still buy
Ambassadors.Why dont you crib about Hindustan Motor's still making them in India.That thing's probably more than 50 years old and people still buy them.
In this country you don't just throw away stuff just because it's old and not contemporary.Nobody's got a gun to your head saying you have to buy a 800,you don't like it fine ,just leave it alone.Somebody else will like it.
I think the 800 still sell's well in the rural areas where your beloved so called modern cars are not very common.That's probably people want everything tried and trusted when it comes to something like cars,simply because not everyone can afford to change cars every 2-3 years like
some of the rich ,spolit and arrogant people whining about what should be done the car which put India on wheels.

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This car is a foreign model!. It was not designed in India 30 years ago. And, no foreign manufacturer would dare to keep churning an outdated model year after year with no upgrades and expect to stay in business. The fact that you own one doesn't take anything away from you. You have the right to drive what you want. That doesn't take away from the fact, though. The fact is that this car is long past it's "sell-by" date.Who cares if it can clock so many miles?.I can show you Morris Minors that have clocked more than 250,000 miles and are still in running condition. Does that mean Morris Minors should have continued in production?.
If you could suggest an alternative car for the remote rural masses, that would be more constructive.
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A common man's car in a country like india is one which can carry people from point A to B with minimal expense and it should protect the occupants from rain and sun .Also the cost of ownership should be minimal. As long as M800 can provide this ,how dated the external shell is , it will sell or else MSIL has to stop production.
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I guess we can debate the M800 being trash or whether to euthanise it on some other relevant thread. It is a low-end people mover, with awesome FE and reliability and has no competition till date. The day we see other competitive options for consumers in that segment, we can all bay for its blood.

Coming to the topic of this thread, Maruti should stop making a mockery of itself (consumers anyway are not being fooled as they are aware) by coming up with a "New" M800 every other year. It is plain stupid on their part to expect that people will really swallow their claim and rush to the dealer to get their hands on the supposedly new M800.

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The company has loaded the limited edition of Maruti 800 Uniq with a range of new features such as body graphics, all new beige upholstery, trendy door trims with fabric patch, smart lower console box, rear package tray, stylish dome decal to attract young consumers.
See the words used - loaded - loaded with what ? With plain and common bull-excreta ie. And features? Body graphics & decals are new features ? Even without these stupid campaigns, the janta is anyway buying the car. So why waste good money to make a fool of yourself, is what I can't understand.
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By now, we all know about the special editions rolled out by MSIL. It's just plain marketing gimmick.
Stickers won't transform or do any good to the car.

The TRASH subject is never suitable for this small wonder.
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If they do any better than the stickers & decal, it would become an alto. Best is to lower the price by half & pit it against the nano for as much as it can & then give it a dignified auto death as suggested by nickatnite.
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