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Old 2nd February 2011, 01:34   #451
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I dont think maruti is aiming for the enthusiast with the SX4 anyway. The most that we can expect is improved drivability with better gear ratios and a higher ground clearance compared to the Linea. Perfect for city driving and the occasional highway excursion [although the highway manners of the SX4 are an entirely different topic].

If they offer a Zdi version, it should sell pretty well. I dont think the Vdi would sell as well as the Zdi. At this price point, people would be less willing to compromise on creature comforts.
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Just now received intel that sx4 diesel will be priced @ 90k more than the petrol variant. and display models are on their way to showrooms. can expect some of them to reach in 2 to 3 days. I still don't know the actual launch date.
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It maybe only 90K more, but I feel Maruthi will remove stuff from the equivalent petrol version to adjust their profit margins.
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Checked with Bimal Maruti showroom in Bangalore old airport road yesterday evening, sales rep told demo cars are in transit and is expected to reach showrooms in 15 days. When asked about the specs he confirmed that its the 1.3L engine only but the full specs / launch date/ price and other details they will be able to inform only after 2-3 days. As per him there will be a Vdi and Zdi variant.
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Here is some news on the diesel SX4 in "The Hindu" today chennai edition.

The Hindu : FEATURES / METRO PLUS : SX4 in a diesel avatar
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Are they tweaking with the original Fiat engine to suit the SX4 or leaving it as it is? Is there any authentic report on this aspect?
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Are they tweaking with the original Fiat engine to suit the SX4 or leaving it as it is? Is there any authentic report on this aspect?
As per the sales rep whom I had talked to yesterday as which I mentioned two posts above its the same 1.3 L fiat engine and its tweaked for higher perfomance. However the full details of the same he was not able to say, he was saying they will be getting the detailed specs only by this weekend or next week start.
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Its gonna be a VGT DDIS, or to be simple, linea's motor plonked into SX4 with some tweaks. Still don't have any concrete idea here in Delhi when they will launch it..
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Will there be an automatic in diesel?

Apart from the Verna CRDI automatic there is no other option in sub 10 lac segment of diesel cars. So if there will be an automatic than it will open up a new segment and compel other players such as volkswagen and ford to come with diesel automatics.
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Any maruti car should be easily lighter than the Fiats given that Fiat is always bulit tank like and Maruti's like feather ! So the accelaration should be decent and I strongly agree with you on the gear ratios. Maruti does good tweaking on the gear ratios.

Swiftnfurious, The SX4 is no lightweight car. The ZXI tips the scales at 1200 KG. The only car in its segment that is heavier is the Linea.
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Fiat Linea Petrol (Not T-Jet)- 1180 kg.
Maruti SX4- 1200 kg. (VXi- 1170kg).

You forgot SX4 is half suzuki, half FIAT?

@opendro: Unless they take all the seats out, i dont think they'll be able to make the diesel weigh 1.1 ton, when the petrol ZXi itself weighs 1.2 tons! Dont take these magazines too seriously!
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Swiftnfurious, The SX4 is no lightweight car. The ZXI tips the scales at 1200 KG. The only car in its segment that is heavier is the Linea.
Hey..thanx guys ! I didnt know this. But is this weight felt in the car too? in terms of the build quality or the safety feeling ? I have heard numerous people saying that they feel quite secure in a Fiat because of the "build" ! Again with this factor, how will it be a Fun-to-Drive car? And what about mileage?!!
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Its gonna be a VGT DDIS, or to be simple, linea's motor plonked into SX4 with some tweaks. Still don't have any concrete idea here in Delhi when they will launch it..
Pretty soon I guess. Within a couple of months.

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It maybe only 90K more, but I feel Maruthi will remove stuff from the equivalent petrol version to adjust their profit margins.
That sucks. 90K premium would be acceptable if it was a 1.6L diesel. Looks like maruti is messing up with the pricing. It is no more VFM as perceived before. Kizashi is not at all well priced. No cars even in the hatchback category offer more VFM than Beat/Figo. Neither it offer the luxury of I20/Jazz. Nor does it have the Ride and handling of Polo/Fabia/Punto. Unless they produce VFM products I don't see them sustaining the share in the long run.
As for SX4 diesel. It sucks. A 1.3L diesel is injustice to the overweight, bulky machine. To tell the truth I am least interested about its launch. However I feel Pricing should be at par with the current 1.6L motor. And off course without removing any features.

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There was one point that the sales guy had told which most of us has misssed out when talking about the on road price diffrence between diesel and petrol. Diesel engine is going to be 1.3l one and he was saying that comes in the lower tax bracket (Iam not sure what are each tax slabs in engine capacity though so cant comment on the exact percentage); so compared to petrol which I guess is 1.58 l there will be a tax diffrence which will offset part of the price increase of diesel.
Though the agent was asking me to check out next week for the price details he was saying a diffrence of 70k range may be whats expected.

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Pretty soon I guess. Within a couple of months.


That sucks. 90K premium would be acceptable if it was a 1.6L diesel. Looks like maruti is messing up with the pricing. It is no more VFM as perceived before. Kizashi is not at all well priced. No cars even in the hatchback category offer more VFM than Beat/Figo. Neither it offer the luxury of I20/Jazz. Nor does it have the Ride and handling of Polo/Fabia/Punto. Unless they produce VFM products I don't see them sustaining the share in the long run.
As for SX4 diesel. It sucks. A 1.3L diesel is injustice to the overweight, bulky machine. To tell the truth I am least interested about its launch. However I feel Pricing should be at par with the current 1.6L motor. And off course without removing any features.
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Diesel engine is going to be 1.3l one and he was saying that comes in the lower tax bracket (Iam not sure what are each tax slabs in engine capacity though so cant comment on the exact percentage); so compared to petrol which I guess is 1.58 l there will be a tax diffrence which will offset part of the price increase of diesel.
As usual with sales guys, he is only partially true.

Yes, diesels less than 1.5L, and petrols less than 1.2L do qualify for lower (small car) tax bracket, provided they are less than 4 metres in length.

SX4 is 4490m and hence it wont qualify!

(However, Maruti is working on bringing the DZire in this tax bracket. DZire has 1.2L petrol, and 1.3L diesels which will qualify if its length is brought under 4m)
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Ok, so thats how the tax thing work. I was thinking the length and engine capacity criterion was not related to each other. Well, so it doesnt matter even if the engine would have been the much wished for 1.6l since the car will be above 4 mts in length.

Thanks for letting me know the same.

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As usual with sales guys, he is only partially true.

Yes, diesels less than 1.5L, and petrols less than 1.2L do qualify for lower (small car) tax bracket, provided they are less than 4 metres in length.

SX4 is 4490m and hence it wont qualify!

(However, Maruti is working on bringing the DZire in this tax bracket. DZire has 1.2L petrol, and 1.3L diesels which will qualify if its length is brought under 4m)
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