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Old 6th December 2008, 19:41   #286
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id be more than happy if that same car in the pics comes to india with all those goodies and buttons to fiddle with. hardly any buyers though since the 9 lak bracket killer honda has a good car kicking in action over this. place this car at 7 laks to even see awesome sales.
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BS Motoring review of Linea
Top Story - In the Line-a of fire - Business Standard Motoring

While it has good points for rest of the parts - they are totally unimpressed with the engine.

"Despite weighing just 1185 kg, the Linea feels heavier and cumbersome in the way it accelerates." ... "..the heavier Octavia not only feels quicker, but has a much higher top speed as well".

and finally "Unfortunately, the engine is a weak point, something Fiat could do better to make amends with by plonking in the 104 bhp variant of the Multijet or possibly, reworking the gear ratios."

This is quite different from the Autocar review. Wonder who's right.
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Old 6th December 2008, 20:51   #288
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This is quite different from the Autocar review. Wonder who's right.
There's only so much power you can extract from a 1.3L engine, I'd definitely have doubts on the engines having pickup/capacity to match some of the larger diesels in that segment. Though IMHO the car on an overall would be an excellent package.
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The Fiat-India site confirms the delay of the launch.Till a few days back the banner on the site said "Fiat Linea-Coming in December 08" and now it says "Coming soon".Looks like we have to wait till January now.


How did you reach on this conclusion?! "Coming Soon" could be December 16 since it's soon(er) then January isnt it?
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Or they could just be smart and give a Pete's tuning box free with each Linea. Problem solved

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and finally "Unfortunately, the engine is a weak point, something Fiat could do better to make amends with by plonking in the 104 bhp variant of the Multijet or possibly, reworking the gear ratios."
This is quite different from the Autocar review. Wonder who's right.
The BS motoring review does ring true to my ears.
But ,inspite of this, this car does have the potential to set the sales charts on fire.
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Old 6th December 2008, 22:42   #292
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Can somebody suggest which is the best TATA - FIAT dealerships in NCR
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Old 6th December 2008, 23:47   #293
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Buy from anywhere, service at samyak patparganj. Rest is moh maya.
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BS Motoring review of Linea
Top Story - In the Line-a of fire - Business Standard Motoring

While it has good points for rest of the parts - they are totally unimpressed with the engine.

"Despite weighing just 1185 kg, the Linea feels heavier and cumbersome in the way it accelerates." ... "..the heavier Octavia not only feels quicker, but has a much higher top speed as well".

and finally "Unfortunately, the engine is a weak point, something Fiat could do better to make amends with by plonking in the 104 bhp variant of the Multijet or possibly, reworking the gear ratios."

This is quite different from the Autocar review. Wonder who's right.
Interesting, but why are they comparing Linea with Octavia. They are two different segments.
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Interesting, but why are they comparing Linea with Octavia. They are two different segments.
That's because both are 90bhp engines. Since Linea is lighter and the multijet provides better torque than the Octy, we would normally assume its at least as good as the Octy diesel.

And of course Linea's a wee bit bigger and probably better equipped than the Octy.
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The BS motoring review does ring true to my ears.
But ,inspite of this, this car does have the potential to set the sales charts on fire.
ANHC, Magnum TCDi, Octy, Fiesta Petrol, Verna Petrol/CRDi, SX4, Logan diesel...would all leave the Linea MJD for dead in daily motoring...doesn't sound too attractive to me. Hope they revise their gear ratios soon.
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That's because both are 90bhp engines. Since Linea is lighter and the multijet provides better torque than the Octy, we would normally assume its at least as good as the Octy diesel.

And of course Linea's a wee bit bigger and probably better equipped than the Octy.
I think the test drive report from BS motoring does not do justice. Just because 2 cars have 90 bhp, doesn't mean one should start comparing them. Fiat 500 and Indica Vista have 75 bhp, so shall we start comparing them?
The majority of prospective buyers of a Linea are not going to look at Octavia and vice-versa. Linea's competition is the likes of SX4, Verna, Fiesta, City etc. not Octavia.
Reading the report looks like this car was driven like a petrol engined car or it was some kind of trial run for a drag race. The whole point of having shorter gear ratios in Linea was to have better efficiency in city driving conditions. This is not mentioned in the report at all. Instead, the the driver was busy revving the engine in 3rd gear at 100 kph!
Its important not take these kind of reports too seriously.
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ANHC, Magnum TCDi, Octy, Fiesta Petrol, Verna Petrol/CRDi, SX4, Logan diesel...would all leave the Linea MJD for dead in daily motoring...doesn't sound too attractive to me. Hope they revise their gear ratios soon.
Logan Diesel will leave the MJD for dead? Where on earth did you get that idea?
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I think the engine may be adequate but nothing to rave about, BS didn't criticize as such, its just that they weren't enthusiastic.

And the performance figures do bear that out, obviously everyone would have preferred a slightly more powerful engine between 100-120bhp for the size of the car however at the moment its 1249 cc and 90bhp and that's all we have got.

Hopefully the 120 bhp turbo petrol and the 104 bhp diesel will make it soon to do full justice to the car.
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December issue of a leading automobile magazine carries a test report of Linea, gives it 9/10. 1.3 multijet is having 90 bhp.

Accelaration figures nothing to rave about, takes little more than 15 seconds to reach 100 kph.

Expected to hit the roads in January 09.
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