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Honda City 1.5 iVtec 113 55.39%
Fiat Linea 1.4 Fire 91 44.61%
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Old 22nd January 2009, 12:02   #196
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Afaik, ANHC do have rear A/c vents, below the front seats. At least that's what their website says. I have not checked it specifically during my TD.
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Vid, just like Honda's R&D proved that Indian diesel is not good enough to power their diesel engines, in the same way, their research proved why these features don't make sense in India.

- Blue&Me: None of the software companies globally are able to design a software like this to run Honda's state of the art technologically advanced cars.

- ACC: This system does not suit the climatic conditions prevealent in our country. Also, the Indian skin tone will not take too well to the ACC.

- Rear A/C Vents: The owner does not like full blast of air on his face. It spoils his receding hairstyle.

- Service reminder and speed limit indicator: Indian buyers are not mature enough to understand these features. If the computer starts beeping, the owner will think there is something wrong with his car or that it's rattling.

Rest assured, Honda's R&D is working overtime on these features. When the time is right and when Indian buyers have matured enough, Honda will incorporate these features in their products.
Amit: I was stunned when I read the first line. Then as I read further I found that your post was dripping with sarcasm

The humor is typical Brit!
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Old 22nd January 2009, 12:11   #198
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It is officially confirmed by Fiat (read Deepak' post, not sure in which thread though) that the engine is in the same state of tuning as used by the magazines for testing.
Yes. I got it confirmed from the CEO corner that the auto magazines tested at least the JTD engine in the same state of tune as what we all are test driving now. Whether they detuned the engine itself from 90-85 is another issue altogether.
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Old 22nd January 2009, 12:18   #199
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Here I will just list the cons of the City. Let us see how many among us are willing to live with these omissions.

1) No alloys
2) Skinny tyres
4) No Climate control
3) No rear AC vent
4) No CD Player
5) Less breaking efficiency
6) EPS (vs Hydraulic in the Linea)
7) Overpriced
8) Short service intervals (5000km vs 15000km in the Linea)
9) Less fuel efficient
10) Sick looking back-end
11) No diesel option

To me the EPS is the biggest gripe. The steering lacks feedback.
 
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Afaik, ANHC do have rear A/c vents, below the front seats. At least that's what their website says. I have not checked it specifically during my TD.
A lot of cars claim that they have rear AC vents. Heck, my 9 year old lancer has rear ac vents below the front seats.

Those rear vents are almost of no use. For one they are piddly in size and air flow is very less. Secondly they don't work in normal front AC mode. They will only work when you fully divert the airflow to the feet. So then the front and rear passengers get AC to the feet but noone gets on their face.

In the last 9 years the only time I used that mode was to shoo away mosquitoes so they don't bite my feet.
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Afaik, ANHC do have rear A/c vents, below the front seats. At least that's what their website says. I have not checked it specifically during my TD.
Those are rear AC ducts under the seat (my lancer also has those) and helps. However, Linea has proper AC vents in the rear at about knee level which will provide better cooling to the upper body.
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Both the cars have their forte and lacks in something or other but both of them surely are winners and anybody as a buyer will end up being happy with both of them.

Its just the matter of choice and taste!
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Off topic: why not put Fiat fanboys in Linea VS Honda Fanboys in City. and let them crash front on, who survives wins the Definitive Comparison
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I think we have had enough of comparing Linea to the City. The City can never be dislodged as the C segment king in India. It's about time we compared the car with Fiesta , Verna and SX4.
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I think we have had enough of comparing Linea to the City. The City can never be dislodged as the C segment king in India. It's about time we compared the car with Fiesta , Verna and SX4.
Ignoring Fountainheaders signature, I think you are right. Its unfortunate that the ANHC will indeed outsell the other three mentioned here at least for some time. Is it a better car ? Debatable.
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Off topic: why not put Fiat fanboys in Linea VS Honda Fanboys in City. and let them crash front on, who survives wins the Definitive Comparison
On the contrary I say, put FIAT fanboys in ANHC and HONDA fanboys in LINEA and see if they even agree for fully frontal head-on crash
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Guys, coming 3-6 months will tell us whether City has hit its sales or not. Lets put the decision as tie for time being. People who have their brains functioning will see the VFM in any of the car and will take decisions accordingly.

Now lets go further:

As Verna, Fiesta also comes in radar, lets have a thread on that. Also even if we see Linea's few features are in the league of D segment cars (like Altis n all), may be we can debate on that as well .
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Those are rear AC ducts under the seat (my lancer also has those) and helps. However, Linea has proper AC vents in the rear at about knee level which will provide better cooling to the upper body.
I dont know if you have seen the car in person... but it has only a single vent, not vents. Which is attached to the back of the front armrest and really provides cooling for the knee's of one of the passenger. Is it better than not having one at all, hell yeah, spcly in Delhi. Is it ideal design and a proper full blown rear ac solution, far from it!
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I dont know if you have seen the car in person... but it has only a single vent, not vents. Which is attached to the back of the front armrest and really provides cooling for the knee's of one of the passenger. Is it better than not having one at all, hell yeah, spcly in Delhi. Is it ideal design and a proper full blown rear ac solution, far from it!
Most cars have it that way. Only vans and SUVs have it on top with vents.
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