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Old 3rd February 2009, 07:06   #31
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ABS \ and only driver side airbags -- shouldn't they give this as optional across variants; people who want safety features but dont have deep pockets will be forced to buy v4 petrol or diesel. sorry for going off-topic but T brand head and honcho's should have thought this through before launching the F & T brands recently launched.
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Great job sid as usual.

180mm GC should be good on indian roads.
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This thread is getting to be like James Bond, everyone mentioning T-brand instead of the real name ;-)

I think this is a desperate attempt, doing a mix and match of the product bin.

Usually the company goes on long gestation periods to bring out products with the aim of getting it right the first time round, this time they are trying a wham-bham thank you ma'am, very interesting
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this is what their strategy will look like:CS will be a unique vehicle

the T-branded sedan will be positioned against more ugly looking competition:
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and the f-branded sedan will have:
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I see both T branded sedan and F branded sedan in the snaps above. Shouldn't they be removed?
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With this launch the T & F combo would have quite an hold over the 4L-8/9L sedan segment, with CS catering to the low end, new T-sedan to the mid and F-sedan to the high end.
Looks like a good strategy, if you think of them as one company with two brands.
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dimensions:

length: 4300 mm approx
width: 1710 mm approx
height: 1550 mm approx
wheelbase: 2580 mm approx
ground clearence: 180 m approx
tyre size: 175/65 R14 on v1, v2, v3,
185/60 R14 with alloys on v4

brakes: front: 240 mm ventilated disc
rear: self-adjusting drums
ABS (expected to be standard on v4)

front suspension: independent, lower wishbone, mcpherson strut with coil-spring and anti-roll bar
rear suspension: semi independent 5-link with coil-spring and telescopic shock absorber
Great Job as usual,Sid, keep it coming..your threads are always something I look forward to reading.

Any idea about the kerb weight,since T-company's new hatch on which the sedan will be based weighs in well over a ton when mated with the F-company's diesel engine (possibly the lightest in its category), so with a boot and the dicor it is likely to be heavier than H-company's (straight H...sheesh) ... Honda Civic.
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This thread is as much fun, as informative. It's sort of cool to use T, F and now a H (strainght H!). Keep it going

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I am sure this is going to be much much better looking than the Dzire.
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i think we are judging the italians too soon. they seem to have gathered significant momentum over the last 2 - 3 years across the world. Surely this JV is only helping people understand the quality of engine they produce.

i am looking forward to the T-Car, should be fun. we have seen in the past how india is a market tuned to buying good looking vehicles (example the swift). as is true with most T-Cars they do really well in the market. i only wish T-Company worked a little harder at losing the reputation as a good maker of City Cabs than City Cars.
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I am sure this is going to be much much better looking than the Dzire.
Hey John, You are right. It should look better than the "M" Dzire!
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SidIndica, You are rocking.

Good part is that suspension and wheelbase & Engine (86 BHP with VGT) are improved over the hatch for the real sedan. unlike the just boot attach job in Dezire.
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Hi Sidindica,

Great work with all the info.
would you know if T co. will be differenciating the T sedan visually from the T hatchback (on which the sedan is based). Of course this will have a boot, but other than that will the front end, dashboard etc. be the same?? Just curious. Thank You.
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1. Great scoop.

2. 4 engine variants, and no petrol turbo?

3. Is this a mere soup up of the existing lineup of sedans?

4. I may not buy another car for next 4 years since I am severely short of vitamin M; but I would love if they gave two option packs for all variants - (a) ABS and airbags and (b) alloy wheels.

I certainly would love to go in for a base variant but still have the safety features.
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