Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > The Indian Car Scene


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 16th March 2009, 10:44   #1
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 2,376
Thanked: 528 Times
Default Honda introducing diesel variants?

One of the local newspapers (Bangalore) has a news item on Honda looking to introduce diesel variants on all it's models. It doesnt specify any dates or source (just says 'reliable industry sources...).
Does anyone has more information on this?

PS: @Mods, I could not find if there is a thread on this topic. Please, merge/move as appropriate
Guna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 10:53   #2
Senior - BHPian
 
vkochar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Delhi / Agra / London
Posts: 2,031
Thanked: 214 Times
Default

That sounds nice.

I would really want to know what they price their City's & Civics if introduced in Diesels - Probably 1.5 - 2 lacs more expensive than the Petrol Variant.

I doubt if they are going to do so soon. I once drove a Honda CRV Diesel in UK. It was absolutely Fantastic.
vkochar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 11:01   #3
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,503
Thanked: 436 Times
Default

There is another thread on the euro spec accord spotted testing in NCR, with our scoop man sidindica quoting his sources on that particular car coming with a diesel engine!
vineethvazhayil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 11:02   #4
BHPian
 
S_budhiraj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Delhi
Posts: 275
Thanked: 0 Times
Default

I doubt this news, As of day Honda is singing a song of Poor Diesel Qaulity in India as reason for not introducing Diesels here.

Which I personally feel is simply crap!
S_budhiraj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 11:04   #5
Senior - BHPian
 
hellstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,071
Thanked: 17 Times
Default

Now if thats true then it would definitley be somethingto look forward to , imagine engine to match the performance and mileage of a verna CRDi in the heart of a New Honda city !

Last edited by hellstar : 16th March 2009 at 11:05. Reason: typos
hellstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 11:16   #6
BHPian
 
loving_alaap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ahmedabad
Posts: 808
Thanked: 9 Times
Default

Well, the reason given from Honda for not introducing diesel engines in India is not justifiable.

There must be something other than this.

Any way, even a common man can say that, if Honda rolls out diesels, it will sell like anything. (a new phrase will come up. Instead of Hot cakes, its than Hot Honda)

Hope for the best.

The only catch is the price (After all its Honda)
S0, it may be,(after the price hikes in April)
ANHC diesel: 12 lacs
Civic diesel: 16 lacs
Accord diesel: 25 lacs
CR-V diesel: 30 lacs
loving_alaap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 11:30   #7
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,503
Thanked: 436 Times
Default

I guess they have a diesel engine only for cars of the size accord and CR-V. It is a 2.2 liter diesel powerplant, and in some countries it is also offered in the Civic. So For now, not too sure if a city diesel is on the horizon..
vineethvazhayil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 11:37   #8
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: mumbai
Posts: 1,578
Thanked: 120 Times
Default

so we might get to pay about 12 lakhs or so for a City Diesel if honda lauches it here, wont that be a big big premium?
fx45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 11:43   #9
BHPian
 
S_budhiraj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Delhi
Posts: 275
Thanked: 0 Times
Default

The Engine is 2.2 I-CTDI (Intelligent Common turbo diesel Injection)

comes in the tune between 130 - 150 BHP, from Civic Type R, CRV, FRV & Accord
S_budhiraj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 12:21   #10
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 3,717
Thanked: 425 Times
Default

From what I know Honda has just the 2.2L I-CTDi engine at the moment which means IF Honda launches a diesel here, it would be only in the Accord and CR-V. They can launch the Civic D too at about 17-18 lacs against the Laura and Jetta provided it's the Civic V at that price and not the E!
amit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 13:12   #11
BHPian
 
Gagan.js's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 227
Thanked: Once
Default

They've already priced their cars at such a premium that putting a diesel engine to it would make the prices ridiculous. I don't see it being a success.
Gagan.js is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 15:33   #12
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Aberdeen, UK
Posts: 1,174
Thanked: 953 Times
Default

The 2.2 diesel variant has totally cannibalised the petrol variants of the Accord and CRV in Europe. Its very rare to see either of these models without the 2.2 diesel badge at the rear. Honda were among the few companies that were highly reluctant to join the diesel bandwagon, not any more.
  • They have aldready introduced the new variant of the 2.2 diesel with 180 ps and a huge 380nm torque at just 2000 rpm.
  • An even more suprising move is that Honda will introduce Diesel variants of the Acura in the US. This bold move by Honda shows how the company is rethinking its diesel strategy.
  • Honda is also developing a new V6 Diesel that will debut in the US in 2010.
What is suprising is the reluctance of Honda Siel to introduce the technology in India. Honda is making efforts to sell them to the Diesel hating Americans, despite India being a natural diesel market. One of the major reasons Honda is seeing its small car sales fall especially in Europe is because they dont have a fuel efficient small diesel engine.
India is one of the best places to make small diesel engines now especially due to high demand, low costs and the presence of vendors. Honda could also create a 1.6-1.7 diesel engine by taking a 3 cyl. variant of the present 2.2 4 cyl. This could be compact enough to plonk in the City or civic as well.
shortbread is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 15:59   #13
VKJ
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 85
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

I dont think they will bring in the diesel variants in India due to reasons mentioned earlier by shortbread. They are currently concentrating only in the compact segment...lets see how their Jazz fares up to the competition.

BTW any civic hybrid owners here!
VKJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2009, 17:12   #14
Senior - BHPian
 
mithun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cochin
Posts: 1,950
Thanked: 49 Times
Default

The diesels will be available only after 3 years(according to BS).
mithun is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Honda Cars India recalls 90,210 diesel variants of City, Mobilio Rajeevraj The Indian Car Scene 9 10th December 2015 23:37
Introducing synthetic "e-diesel" by Audi! RavenAvi The International Automotive Scene 3 27th April 2015 19:31
Why do diesel engine variants get step-motherly treatment from manufacturers? GTO The Indian Car Scene 127 26th February 2011 17:04


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 12:35.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks