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Old 1st April 2009, 12:01   #1
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Last night when i was filling petrol i have seen there are two pipes are joined together in a nozzle. (which is a common site)

One pipe is coming from main machine & other one is coming from a Green stand. (right side in pic) (may be for oil for 2T vehicles)

But during filling he has done something in that (may be the air flow-which is coming through nozzle with petrol, while meter is moving).

After filling the indicator had not gone to usual mark (less petrol is filled).

Almost all the petrol pump seems to be doing one or other kind of cheating with customers.

What are the other different ways?

Does as a TEAM we can do anything to stop that?

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Old 1st April 2009, 12:10   #2
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The other stand is used for mixing 2T oil while filling and does not work on vaccum but hydraulic pressure using the air pump.

Even if he lets it open for air, the air mixes with the fuel at the nozzle of the dispenser and by that time your fuel has been measured by the pump and displayed. So there should be no way to cheat on this.
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Well if you still are not satisfied then get your car filled at the pump where there are separate filling machines for 4wheelers and 2wheelers. Or simply get a 1 Ltr bottle and get it filled on the pump where two pipes are on the same nozzle.

I myself prefer filling my car from Company owned pumps rather then franchises.
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That's a filling station for a 2T motor and it's a very standard way.

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I myself prefer filling my car from Company owned pumps rather then franchises.
Hey, if your displayed location is correct, could you share which are the company owned outlets in the city?
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It is indeed a two-wheeler filling station and looks normal to me. Though i believe new filling station including 2T mixed are on place for two-wheelers.
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Well, i also know that other pipe is for oil for 2T scooters.

My question is weather an air can be pushed through it, so that along with petrol air is also coming out. So, with the same meter reading, less petrol is filled.
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why do they have to do such a thing, when they have better way to rigs their machine.
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Yeah, it's the hose pipe for 2T oil which is used for scooters which require oil to be mixed with petrol. Shouldn't affect the metering of the petrol dispenser. I don't think there is any cause for worry.
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We already have a thread discussing a similar topic. Here (Short Fueling Tricks At Petrol Stations)
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Lol that's a 2T oil dispensing pump ! Don't tell me he pumped in 2T ?

There's that small glass jar which is connected to the smaller pipe going in to the dispenser nozzle. Now the attendant will fill in the required amount of 2T before beginning to pump in fuel into the vehicle (2 stroke vehicles, not 4 stroke vehicles).

The whole idea of this dual feed system is to uniformly mix 2T with the petrol.

You were lucky there was no 2T in the pipe, else the engine would have smoked.

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Well again I am saying that he pumps air through the 2T nozzle, not the oil.

So the petrol & air both are running the meter!
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is it possible air to run the meter i think no,and when there is no oil in the oil pump how is posible that it will run.
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Well he has done something with the 2T pipeline motor, so it has started.

And yes air can smoothly run a turbine present in the meter, instead of a liquid (i.e. petrol)
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but how is it possible for the 2t pipe to run the petrol meter,it joins the petrol pipe at the nozzle and the meter is way far from it

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We already have a thread discussing a similar topic. Here (Short Fueling Tricks At Petrol Stations)
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why do they have to do such a thing, when they have better way to rigs their machine.
Why petrol pumps even bother to cheat is beyond me. Do the attendants get some personal gain out of it?

I try not to worry too much about being cheated at petrol pumps. Ignorance is bliss. And as someone said on the other thread esteem_lover has linked to, the only ways to really avoid being cheated are:

(1) Obtain your own petrol pump
(2) Go abroad and use a self-service pump there
(3) Walk
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