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Old 9th September 2009, 13:59   #46
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As far as maintenance goes, i have been using an endeavour past 1 year, done more than 50k, but no mainatenace probs. Had only changed brake pads.
Even the tires are still new.

I don't know about others opinions but the ride is pretty good, not so bumpy, i can even turn easily at 130km on long curves.
Spares are not costly.
Maintenance and spares was my top most priority since i had many problems with my ford escort, so i clarified it before itself.
Yes middle row is way too comfy with lots of legroom and even thethird row is good.
Well even if you buy a Q7 or RR, there would be complaints about the third row so its obivious no one is ever satisfied.

Well the prev gen was better looking IMO.

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Is there anyway that we can have Endy's rear suspension changed to a better one from some specialist?
Yes the suspension can be changed.
I know this because the day i bought my endeavour, next day itself a guy called me asking if i would be interested in changing the suspension. Company named arc.. something. He was the manufacturer.
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Endy has been priced brilliantly. I don't think Fortuner can come in AT under 20 L....
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Very good pricing on the AT Endy. Congratulations Ford!
I'm sure a good number of to-be Fortuner customers would switch sides.
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Endy has been priced brilliantly. I don't think Fortuner can come in AT under 20 L....
Absoultely right.
Moreover many prospective buyers may not be aware of any suspension issues and imo Endy looks much better now.
6 months waiting period is too much for fortuner.
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Brilliant . Ford has one future customer in me when I decide to change my car.

The Endeavour AT would meet both the demands of the family. One automatic transmission and the other SUV And the pricing is icing on the cake.

An AT Captiva is also on the other side of 20L.

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Yes the suspension can be changed.
I know this because the day i bought my endeavour, next day itself a guy called me asking if i would be interested in changing the suspension. Company named arc.. something. He was the manufacturer.
Can you send me more info at your convenience?
If rear suspension can be taken care of, I don't see any real issue in Endy. Equipment wise and Safety wise, it's better than Fortuner anyday!
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It looks like a monster as usually,but is there any a change in the rear seat comfort?
Looking at the pics it seems to be.Pls confirm.
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Can you send me more info at your convenience?
If rear suspension can be taken care of, I don't see any real issue in Endy.
But are you OK with the warranty getting invalid?
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Ford finally seems to have mastered the art of selling products in India. After Ford Fiesta, it is now the turn of Endeavour. The price is competitive. Only missing is the rear suspension, climate control. Other than these, it is ahead of forturener. One more customer for ford waiting for time. Does the driver seat height adjustable?

Get well soon sid.
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Endy has been priced brilliantly. I don't think Fortuner can come in AT under 20 L....
Impossible. Its manual version is 21+ on road so forget AT to squeeze.

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Can you send me more info at your convenience?
If rear suspension can be taken care of, I don't see any real issue in Endy. Equipment wise and Safety wise, it's better than Fortuner anyday!
I don't have the number now, but i'll try to find out.
I never changed the suspension because i don't find the current suspension so annoying. Its not as if they unbearable and i have to change them. IMO its ok.

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It looks like a monster as usually,but is there any a change in the rear seat comfort?
Looking at the pics it seems to be.Pls confirm.
Why do you question endy's rear seat comfort? I have sat in a fortuner, i think endy's seat are better. The knee comfort is very good. Not because i have one, i am not being baised.

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But are you OK with the warranty getting invalid?
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Spot on pricing by Ford. The OTR price in Mumbai for the 4x4 AT will definately be less than that of the Toyota. Now it is seriously game on. Ford has launched the new Endy at just the right time when Toyota have stopped Fortuner bookings. Now if only if Ford would have done something about those leaf springs.
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But are you OK with the warranty getting invalid?
OT - Well, that's the threat what manufacturers give whenever a customer tries to make a modification - as small as getting an anti-burglar kit fitted or getting a fused bulb replaced from a non-company authorised workshop!
But tell me honestly, how many times have you felt the need to get some part of your vehicle replaced under warranty? Not too many of us. But if you are not the chosen one, and that there is indeed a defect identified in a moving part of your vehicle, high chances are that you will have to ultimately fish out the moolah from your wallet
In case of a problem, the service advisor would tell you that the part under consideration is not covered under warranty, or even if it is, the damage is on account of normal wear and tear and therefore, excluded from warranty, or that the damage is on accout of an abuse, therefore, not covered under warranty. Icing on this cake is the fact that since it is a mechanical part, you can't even claim it under insurance
And trust me, no point in arguing with the folks at such workshops since they would not budge, and you would end up wasting your time, patience and efforts!
I had opted for extended warranty for the first car I purchased and became wiser thereafter..

Coming back to the topic, I would have my reservations about getting the suspension of my 20l vehicle changed as soon as I buy it. If I do need to replace the suspension itself, why would I buy the vehicle in the first place? Playing devil's advocate here, one can not have best of both worlds (at least in Indian car market at this point of time), therefore, one has to strike a balance between the positives/negatives of the choices available - but then, that's just me..
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Brilliant pricing by Ford and made the luxury SUV segment pricing war a head .
Toyota has to do some localization for Fortuner to make more competitive .AT for 17.99 superb pricing and GV is in big trouble for 2.5 manual which 15.99 laks.
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Brilliant Pricing .

Is Endeavour's ride quality so pathetic ? I havent taken a TD yet.
Ride Quality is poor with respect to price or what? (Basically Middle Row Comfort)
even Poorer than the Innova ?
Otherwise i find it great ; AT cheaper than the manual fortuner.

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I'm not planning to use the third row seats ever!. I'll get it removed for maximizing luggage space.

Do you think the second row comfort is also compromised in Endeavour vis-a-vis Fortuner?
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