Senseless two wheeler riders

[setuniket]

@jaysmokesleaves:- I disagree with that melon thing, not every two-wheeler rider is a melon. I also see many people driving like maniac and killing people. But does that make every driver a maniac.

Being responsible is not just the duty of riders, the onus lies on the drivers too. Blaming just one segment is not at all appreciated.

PS:- I am a driver as well as rider too, so i think i understand both driving and riding and can see myself in both the situtations, whenever i follow the law/rule every one pushes one off the road as if someone has comitted a crime.

[jaysmokesleaves]

There is no blame being put on 2wheelers/riders here!!
I guess the 'melons' makes it sound offensive..!!
OK
I take back the 'melons' !

[Magnan]

Those who do not have manners of washing face properly, are riding bikes these days. I daily drive on fourlane higway and to my surprise some stupid bikers drive on dividing white stripe in middle of road as if full half of the road is reserved for him. In city cenario bikers take liberty to drive as per their whims as they feel very much secure there. And woest part is Girls driving on scooties ignoring your normal horns.

[iraghava]

Originally Posted by jaysmokesleaves

And when on the bike, i consider myself to be a melon, even though i wear an expensive helmet & a spidi riding jacket with padding,all of which put together cannot guarantee even 1% of my physical safety. It is therefore of utmost importance that a 2 wheeler rider should not get carried away while riding and should be on the safer side of safe.

Now that is some good advice! I just hope more 2-wheeler riders in the country would listen to this. Would be a benefit for everyone on our roads.

[phamilyman]

Jay. Good analogy. That is the single reason why I commute with riding gear on. And while its good to be aggressive, I do keep on the lookout for counter measures by guys like Gangsta. Its good to let go - only alive bikers can get ahead later!

That being said, what worries me is that in alto (NOT Xeta), I typically end up shaving some 5-10 mins over any journey I undertake. Not a safe sign by a large margin!

[Gangsta]

Originally Posted by phamilyman

Jay. Good analogy. That is the single reason why I commute with riding gear on. And while its good to be aggressive, I do keep on the lookout for counter measures by guys like Gangsta. Its good to let go - only alive bikers can get ahead later!

That being said, what worries me is that in alto (NOT Xeta), I typically end up shaving some 5-10 mins over any journey I undertake. Not a safe sign by a large margin!

Phamilyman, it is very pathetic when you are driving a car and suddenly a biker overtakes you and even comes infront of you. If they can do that, I can also take a precautionary measurement. If u will drive like a scared one, then they will end up in scracting your car.

It is not like i just try to blast them off the road, it is an art of making bikers scared safely. Have control on Car and Brakes, Eyes Open and checking out all 3 rear view mirrors then only i take any action. Else my Horn is there to make them out of the way.

As i told in my previous thread about a very very load horn which can make your ear a whistling one. haha I tested it yesterday. At 7:25 AM- 7:35 AM i was going to Noida. In the way a biker was enjoying his ride in the middle of the road, I started honking way back then again i came close to him and started honking, but he was driving and not going off my way, i couldnt overtake from the left because of the few other bikers. I made a distance of 5 mtr from the biker and switched to my Blower Horn and "BOOM". Oh Boy!! he looked back and asked me to stop this blower horn as it was killing his ears and it was a mental torture for him. I could make that out from his face within a fraction of time, he gave me side to overtake him.

haha i'm an Evil.

[jaysmokesleaves]

@ Gangsta >>
Reading your horn saga, it just reminds me, that i havent used my horn switch on my P180 for 2 years now. Because my horn got stoen off the bike approx 2 years ago and i never bothered to replace it. Its a foolish thing to do-not having a horn- but ive not missed it even once. In the past 2 years, in many situations, not having a horn has made me take a very cautious approach to my own riding, since i know that i cannot alert anyone of my presence, i am more alert myself.

Also reminds me, 4 months ago, i thrashed a driver training school instructor, much to the horror of his pupils and the chagrin of bystanders. I was following him for over 8 minutes while he was in the middle of 2 lanes continuously swerving to the right. I could see that he was making no effort to guide his pupil to maintain one lane. So finally when i got some safe space to ride along, i lifted my lid and politely shouted asking him to maintain one lane. Then he abused me. so i stopped him, slapped him hard twice while he was still in his car. Then i told him, that i will slap him everyday on this same stretch of road(since i use it 10-times a day) till he doesnt learn to teach his pupils lane discipline. The man was barely in his late 20s and was a driving instructor. I guess then we all qualify for becoming instructors.

[jaysmokesleaves]

I must also add that ive seen quite a few car drivers drive their cars as if the got the road free for buying a car(buy1 get 1 free). They are oblivious to the fact that they are on the right lane at snails pace holding up everyone behind while they are busy listening to their music or talking on the fone.
Like the header of this post goes > senseless 2 wheeler riders > nothing is going to change till our senseless government comes up with a sensible license issuing system. Geting a license should be equivalent to the IIT/medical entrance. thats when things on the road will really change. The second way is enforcement. Fines, heavy fines for every fault, and lots of fines till people get in line and follow rules - both 2 & 4 wheelers.

[phamilyman]

Gangsta, its not just you - even alot of us use HIDs and dog horns.

More than other bikers/cars, its silly pedestrians who put us more at risk. Ofc, what I hate are the delhi dudes with RVMs tucked in, and a THICK sunshade in rear windshield blocking any chances of them seeing RVMs - and then music blaring and zigzagging. Those guys are a nuisance.

Had a 2.2 Safari do that the other day. I was doing my usual 80-90 on MG Road, there was this safari who was unbelievably fast and was cutting traffic like he was on a bike. And completely loathe to give any sort of way.

[omishra]

Originally Posted by Gangsta

It is not like i just try to blast them off the road, it is an art of making bikers scared safely. Have control on Car and Brakes, Eyes Open and checking out all 3 rear view mirrors then only i take any action. Else my Horn is there to make them out of the way.

I have recent experience at the same junction where I described accident in previous post.

On 20th March 2008, 8:45AM - I was crossing the signal. After waiting for my turn and got green signal. Still people were not looking at red signal for them and kept me waiting for some time. Then I started inching ahead forcing them to honour my green signal.

After getting way, as soon as I accelerated, one girl on Activa who was intially hesitant to jump red signal made up her mind. I saw her approaching me from right angles. Then I pressed clutch and revved engine to 4K RPM. That made her so scared that she fall on the road and I braked smoothly to stop before her. It was just 30KM speed and I safely braked.

Now I can see her standing up and weeping to get public sympathy. She started accusing me, sing generic statement - "You people would always do this when you see a girl." Meanwhile I shouted my sentences at her to take care and she could die. I told her, "You stupid! can't look at the signal. You will die and go to Hell. But leave behind me and my dependant suffering in our life without any fault."

But again, after reaching to office I thought back, "What if my foot slipped off brake pedal?(once happened and I was saved by parking brakes). I could have crushed her". Then I called Radio Mirchi to narrate the incident. No more such things in future. (At least from my side). Thanked God and started the day again.

[Gordon]

Yeah, but because of some, other people may have to suffer. Yesterday afternoon there were Lokhandwala residents standing on the road armed with sticks, etc near back-road.

They confronted me rudely asking me whether I race there.

I asked him to correct his tone and then ask whatever he wants.

He then asked me politely whether I race there and I gave a flat no.

He: "tera koi friend bhi hai jo race karta hai".
I: "You're talking to and about me, so lets not jump onto someone else. Ask whatever you want in regard to me".

He: "See don't race here, we're all standing to catch these people".
I: "I understand what you mean. There are a lot of morons who cause a nuisance here. But that doesn't give you the right to stop me and speak to me like that. Next time I won't be taking this crap."

He: "I'm sorry sir."
I: "Fine, don't do that with anyone else if you aren't sure."

[Gangsta]

Originally Posted by phamilyman

Gangsta, its not just you - even alot of us use HIDs and dog horns.

More than other bikers/cars, its silly pedestrians who put us more at risk. Ofc, what I hate are the delhi dudes with RVMs tucked in, and a THICK sunshade in rear windshield blocking any chances of them seeing RVMs - and then music blaring and zigzagging. Those guys are a nuisance.

Had a 2.2 Safari do that the other day. I was doing my usual 80-90 on MG Road, there was this safari who was unbelievably fast and was cutting traffic like he was on a bike. And completely loathe to give any sort of way.

Cabbies also do the same, in delhi whenever they are in a hurry they just scare the traffic by bringing their indica qualis or tavera very much near to the rear bumper and starts honking. But i never ever gave them side to overtake me, instead i slows down making sure that these cabbies idiots don't overtake me untill i want them to overtake me. lol

How i overtake these cabbies. Hardly few inches away from their rear bumper and my loud horn to blow up their ears.

But i'm 100% sure that i don't drive rash or i don't drive in the biker's lane even if the road is empty i dont run my car in their lanes.

Same treatment is been done to the people who drive fast and like a maniac. I never give any side to them.

Even if street racers manages to overtake me from the left, i make them stuck in the traffic I really enjoy doing it. especially to those who have jhintak type cars with stickers spoilers etc. haha it saves the chances for the accidents and also i break up their adrenaline momentum for a longer time.

[jaganm]

Originally Posted by jaysmokesleaves

@ Gangsta >>

Also reminds me, 4 months ago, i thrashed a driver training school instructor, much to the horror of his pupils and the chagrin of bystanders. I was following him for over 8 minutes while he was in the middle of 2 lanes continuously swerving to the right. I could see that he was making no effort to guide his pupil to maintain one lane. So finally when i got some safe space to ride along, i lifted my lid and politely shouted asking him to maintain one lane. Then he abused me. so i stopped him, slapped him hard twice while he was still in his car. Then i told him, that i will slap him everyday on this same stretch of road(since i use it 10-times a day) till he doesnt learn to teach his pupils lane discipline. The man was barely in his late 20s and was a driving instructor. I guess then we all qualify for becoming instructors.

Looks like you need some serious help for your road rage. Might I suggest an Art of Living course?

[gd1418]

No Sir, don't require an AOL course. I'm no Gandhi and will not offer the other cheek. If you make my blood boil by your moronic activities on the road, then I shall make your blood boil for the whole day with my actions.

The 'you' is not meant for you...

Originally Posted by jaganm

Looks like you need some serious help for your road rage. Might I suggest an Art of Living course?

[jaysmokesleaves]

Originally Posted by jaganm

Looks like you need some serious help for your road rage. Might I suggest an Art of Living course?

OT : thanks.. but i sincerely dont need no one to teach me how to live... and certainly not a course.
I think i was born with that much basics.... and since ive still not evolved as a human like the rest of our race... im happy that i still have my controlled aggression!
I Guess almost all the posts in this thread here stand testimony to our faulty evolution!